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MINUTES
A regular meeting was scheduled for Coastal Zone Management Commission on
Tuesday, October 27, 1987, at the Town Center, 740 West Boston Post Road,
Mamaroneck, N. Y. The meeting commenced at 8:07 P.M.
Members Present: Robert S. Schoenberger
Bruce Allen
Wallace Irwin, Jr.
Mary Anne Johnson
Arthur Katz
C. Alan Mason
Shirley W. Tolley
Phyllis Wittner
Others Present: Stephen V. Altieri, Town Administrator
Robert Hohberg, Water Monitoring Consultant
Claudia Ng, Environmental Coordinator
St. Clair Richard, Soundview News
Howard Sloane, Town Resident
Geoffrey Young, Liaison, Village of Larchmont Trustee
John Zappala, Teacher, Hommocks School
Frederick A. Lewis, Recording Secretary
Approval of Minutes
The minutes for the meeting of September 22, 1987, were approved pending
corrections submitted at this meeting.
Commission Membership
Mr. Schoenberger read to the Commission a letter to the Mayor of
Larchmont from Mr. Irwin tending his resignation from the Commission,
effective November 30, 1987. Expressions of praise and an ovation was
accorded Mr. Irwin for his great contributions to the Coastal Zone Management
program.
Mr. Schoenberger also stated that he has been asked to continue as
Chairman of the Commission for a year and has accepted. He further advised
that if the other members whose terms have expired have not as yet been
contacted, they will be requested to stay on. Mr. Katz commented that due to
limitations upon his time, he will not be able to continue another term. Mr.
Allen advised that he has been reappointed for three years. The Chairman
asked for suggestions as to possible replacements.
Address Correspondence to CZM Commission, 740 West Boston Post Road, Mamaroneck, nn, M43 (Phone 914-381-6133)
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1988 Budget
Mr. Schoenberger advised that he was moving Item 3 on the agenda for
discussion first in order to accommodate Mr. Altieri, Town Administrator.
Operating Budget - Copies of the 1988 Operating Budget for Coastal Zone
Management were passed out and reviewed by the Commission. Mr. Altieri
briefly went over each item and responded to queries. Concerning consultant
services being provided by Malcolm Pirnie, Inc. , Mr. Altieri stated that they
were already covered in the 1987 Budget and therefore not included in the
1988 Budget. Under the category, "printing & stationery", Mr. Altieri
advised that the funds being provided were for outside printing jobs inasmuch
as most of the office photocopying is done through general Town services.
The postage budget line was eliminated for the same reason. Other questions
arose concerning telephone service, travelling expenses, etc. , to which Mr.
Altieri explained that vouchers could be submitted for certain expenses
incurred by a member. It was also noted that the CZMC budget will
occasionally overlap with other budgets under the Conservation Department.
Mr. Irwin brought up staff time for maintenance, inspection, enforcement,
pollution monitoring, etc. , as items for inclusion in the operating budget.
Mr. Altieri stated tht some of the items are being addressed by increases in
the Highway Department budget for 1988. In conclusion, the Commission
expressed approval of the appropriations for the 1988 Operating Budget.
Capital Budget - Mr. Altieri advised that the Capital Program included .in
the budget reviews what will be done in the next five years. The Plan is
revised annually because priorities may change or there may not be sufficient
funds for certain projects. It was started in 1983 as a guideline. Mr.
Altieri further stated that the LWRP contemplated certain projects and
perhaps they should be programmed into the plan. Mr. Schoenberger suggested
that the Commission make their recommendations from the contents of the
Annual Report which will be submitted to the Town next month. He recommended
the sewer project and flood control. Mr. Altieri indicated that sewer system
upgrading and flood control projects are already included in the Capital
Budget. Mr. Irwin recommended catch basins and silt traps, which were only
briefly outlined in the Annual Report but are vital. Dr. Mason mentioned
funds concerning the reservoir valve. Mrs. Wittner stated that the results
of the Premium Feasibility Study is not reflected in the LWRP and Malcolm
Pirnie will shortly have recommendations for physical improvements which
should be considered now in terms of cost and decisions. She advised that
Mr. Taylor will have something to report around November 15. Mr. Altieri
indicated that the deadline for the Capital Budget is November 15. The
question of the Bonnie Briar Study was raised and discussed. Mr. Altieri
explained that it is an extension of a prior study, but more from a drainage
and flood control viewpoint in which they were taking a better look at zoning
alternatives. Mrs. Tolley questioned the legality of rezoning the country
club, noting that the R-50 rezoning proposal considered in an early version
of the LWRP had been labelled as indefensible and therefore had to be
dropped. Mr. Altieri advised that the study is now in progress and Mr.
Schoenberger requested that the Commission be kept abreast of it. Mr.
Schoenberger further referred Mr. Altieri to the recommendations made by the
Commission in the final edition of their Annual Report and advised that they
would like to see some action taken on all items.
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Legislative Matters
Litter Law - The Town Council has requested CZMC to comment on the
proposed Litter Law. Mr. Schoenberger thereupon asked for comments. Mrs.
Wittner questioned why streams, marshes, rivers and conservation areas were
ommitted from the law. She also referred to the regulations on water and
questioned dumping in waterways. Mrs. Wittner felt that these items should
be included in the law. Mr. Schoenberger also asked that grass clippings,
leaves, and discarded containers be included. The question of newspaper
littering along with the Pennysaver was brought up. Mr. Young mentioned that
the Village of Larchmont attempted to crack down on the Pennysaver, but was
thwarted because the Pennysaver would include one or two political
advertisements which gives it the right to be distributed. Mr. Irwin raised
concern about enforcement and stated that the Building Inspector is the only
official given specific responsibility in the section dealing with the
clearing of litter from private properties. Mr. Irwin felt that this was a
weakness of the law and recommends more enforcement. Mr. Young suggested an
environmental officer with enforcement powers, and the problems which Mr.
Hohberg has encountered, was discussed. While the Commission felt that the
suggestion has merit, they felt that a uniformed officer with enforcement
powers was more in need. Problems of civilians attempting to make arrests
was discussed as well, but Mr. Schoenberger suggested that the Commission
concern themselves with the idea of enforcement, not how it is to be
implemented. Discussion was also held on police hesitation to enforce
regulations of this type. However, Mr. Allen advised that the proposed law
will be a local law in which police are responsible for enforcing. It was
agreed that the Commission will recommend more enforcement and that
appropriate funds be allocated for this purpose. Mr. Irwin stressed emphasis
on education and public information. He also mentioned that the Town should
recognize the broad analysis of the sources of litter and the solution for
getting rid of the problem. Garbage collection was cited as a source in
which much of it remains in the street. In summary, the Commission requested
Ms. Ng to draft a letter to the Town Council concerning the enlargement of
the definition of litter, and to include grass clippings, leaves, discarded
containers, conservation areas, marshes, streams, rivers, and the Long Island
Sound as places where littering should be prohibited. Also to provide more
enforcement, education and public information, police training on
environmental problems, and the alerting of environmental officers to notify
police of violations.
Annual Report
Mrs. Wittner opened the discussion by congratulating Mr. Irwin on a job
well done in putting together the Annual Report. Mr. Schoenberger asked for
comments on major problems concerning the Report. Mrs. Johnson referred to
Page 23, Item 3. She suggested that it include another catch basin at the
Premium under the Post Road as listed in the LWRP under Project 5. After a
review of the LWRP, it was decided to correct Page 23, Item 3 to read four
silt traps with trash racks and to include a fourth one at Post Road culvert
of Premium River. The possibility of putting a silt trap in Gut Creek was
also considered, but it would have to be done in conjunction with the Village
of Mamaroneck since the Hampshire Golf Course lies primarily in the village.
Mrs. Tolley referred to the wording and amount of money indicated on Page 27,
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Paragraph 1, regarding the budget. It was agreed that the sum would be
$8,000. Dr. Mason questioned the second paragraph on Page 3 and asked
whether a vote had been taken on the flume proposal. A discussion ensued
over the wording of the paragraph. Dr. Mason conceded to the consensus of
opinion to let the paragraph remain as written. He also discussed the top
paragraph of Page 6 concerning the cutoff date of the report. Mr.
Schoenberger referred to Page 24, Item 8. He felt that removal of the
woodchips should be included. However, Mr. Irwin informed Mr. Schoenberger
that the matter had already been discussed at the meeting in September in
which Mr. Schoenberger was absent. At that meeting, the Commission concluded
that they do not have much to say about it unless it has impact on the
conservation area. Mrs. Johnson brought up another item on page 16, top of
page, which dealt with service stations and auto dealers. Under "Protective
Measures", Mrs. Johnson felt that regular monitoring should be included, to
which everyone agreed. Mr. Katz referred to Page 15, first paragraph, last
sentence in which he questioned whether the Commission wanted to use such
strong words as "conclusive proof". Consensus of opinion was yes. Mr. Katz
also brought up Recommendations 11, 12, and 14 on pages 25 and 26. He
questioned whether they are within the purview of the Commission. He further
recommended their renumbering in order of importance. Mr. Irwin stated that
Mrs. Tolley had provided him with suggestions by telephone concerning the
historic text and he read the changes to the Commission. Mrs. Wittner gave
Mr. Irwin a listing of minor suggestions and corrections. In regard to the
Premium Beach Lot (item 12, page 25), however, Mrs. Wittner emphasized the
appropriateness of proceeding with this recommendation immediately since the
area just received State "Significant Fish and Wildlife Habitat"
designation. She was, therefore, authorized to draft a letter to the Village
of Larchmont Board of Trustees on this issue. Mr. Irwin was given authority
to complete the project and also an ovation for his work in preparing the
Report.
Projects
Village of Larchmont Harbor Security - Mr. Allen reported that at a
recent meeting of the Village Board, Fred Kellogg, the Village Engineer,
stated that the Town was responsible for any infractions of law at the
Village of Larchmont waterfronts. With regard to the Bay Constables, he
advised that the matter was referred to Senator Oppenheimer (copy on file).
Mr. Allen also suggested that the recommendation for Bay Constables be
submitted in writing and that the CZMC should see to it that ownerships are
elucidated.
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Sound Pollution Monitoring - Mr. Allen provided the Commission with a
descriptive briefing of conditions he found with regard to the Sound. He
reported on a strong smell coming from the pumping station and indicated that
he would like to know the bacterial count in that area as well as others on
the Sound. He further indicated that biological changes are taking place
which are hurting fish. Mr. Allen also pointed out Cedar Island as another
source of pollution and expressed an interest in reviewing the sewer plans
for the area to determine when they were built. Mr. Allen therefore
proposed, with the assistance of Mr. Robert Hohberg and Mr. Zappala and his
students, to monitor the Sound, taking samples of the water along the coast,
the water temperature, the wind direction, tide, etc. , as well as taking
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colony counts and making slides to distinguish organisms in the water
periodically throughout the year. Before putting such a study in operation,
Mr. Allen wanted to know whether the Commission was interested in having him
do it. Mrs. Wittner questioned whether Mr. Allen was aware that a study of
the Sound was presently underway and Mr. Allen advised that he did not
believe that it addressed the issues of concern to the community. Mr.
Zappala supported Mr. Allen's request indicating the need for students to get
involved in environmental studies. Dr. Mason questioned whether Mr. Allen
had the facilities available to conduct such a study and Mr. Allen stated
that he did up to a point but was in need of such lab equipment as an
incubator, lab dishes, etc. Both Mr. Irwin and Dr. Mason supported the
request, and Mr. Hohberg indicated his willingness to work with Mr. Allen and
Mr. Zappala on such a study. Thereupon Mr. Schoenberger suggested the
drafting of a project proposal and submission to the Commission. The
Commission aproved the coordinated efforts of Mr. Allen, Mr. Hohberg, and Mr.
Zappala in such a study pending submission of the proposal. Mr. Hohberg will
propose either the monitoring of East Creek or the waterfront to the
Conservation Advisory Commission (CAC).
New and Other Business
Because of time, Mr. Schoenberger advised that the agenda items
concerning Liaison assessment and Rye's Draft LWRP, be put over to the next
meeting.
Premium Event - Mrs. Johnson reported that approximately 50 persons -
participated in the event. Several boats and canoes were made available and
speakers included Mr. Schoenberger and Jack Taylor of Malcolm Pirnie, Inc.
Mr. Taylor summarized what the consulting firm was doing and would be doing
in the area.
Mrs. Johnson further informed the Commission that Mr. Taylor had advised
her that Tony's Nursery seawall near Chestnut Avenue is in immiment danger of
collapse. Mrs. Wittner stated that the matter was discussed with Fred
Kellogg whom informed her that the matter should be referred to Tom Leddy of
the Town's Highway Department. Mrs. Wittner stated that she had discussed
the matter with Mr. Leddy and he advised her that he would try to get in
touch with the owner, John Rodrigues. It was noted that the stone wall
nearby had also collapsed just a few months ago.
State Freshwater Wetlands Map - Mr. Schoenberger stated that he received
a letter advising that the final edition of the New York State Freshwater
Wetlands Map is on file. Ms. Ng indicated that the Town Clerk has the maps,
but no areas within this community were designated as State freshwater
wetlands.
Long Island Sound - Mr. Schoenberger reported that Senator Patrick
Moynihan held a hearing yesterday in the Town Center on the pollution
problems of Long Island Sound. Several of the Commission members indicated
that they had attended the hearing.
Publications - Mr. Schoenberger advised that he received a copy of the
book, And Two if By Sea: Fighting the Attack on America's Coasts, from the
State's Department of State. The book will be available at the Conservation
Office.
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Meeting Announcements - Mr. Irwin advised that the Environmental
Management Council will hold a meeting tomorrow night (October 28) on coastal
communities. The meeting will take place in White Plains, 85 Court Street,
at 8:00 P.M. He suggested that someone should try to make the meeting. Dr.
Mason indicated that he will make an effort to attend.
Bonnie Briar - Mrs. Tolley referred to an article in the League of Women
Voters newsletter, in which Bonnie Briar was mentioned as one area
recommended by the League for acquisition by the Town because of its
environmental significance. Mrs. Tolley felt that it was encouraging and
stated that she would like for the Commission to get back to the problems in
the Bonnie Briar area.
LWRP Amendment - Mrs. Wittner referred to the "Significant Fish and
Wildlife Habitat" designation which activates Policy 7 of the LWRP. It was
questioned how the LWRP can be amended to include Policy 7 and it was
indicated that action was necessary by the Village and Town.
Subscriptions - The Commission authorized Ms. Ng to subscribe to NYPIRG
and the Sierra Bulletin.
Meeting adjourned at 10:46 P.M.
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