HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986_05_14 Planning Board Minutes MINUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE
PLANNING BOARD OF THE TON OF MAMARONECK
MAY 14, 1986, IN THE COURTROOM, TOWN OFFICES
740 WEST BOSTON POST ROAD
MAMARONECK, NEW YORK
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by the Chairman at
8:16 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mr. Sanford Bell, Chairman
Ms. Mary Carlson
Ms. Pat Latona
Mr. Anton Schramm
Mr. Gaetano Scutaro
Absent: Mr. Lester M. Bliwise
Mr. Emil Nicolaysen
Mr. Lee Hoffman, Town Attorney
Also Present: Mr. Gary Trachtman, Town Engineer
Ms. Jean A. Marra, Board Secretary
SCHEDULING
The Board stated the next meeting of the Planning
Board would be held on June 11, 1986.
PROCEDURE
The Chairman stated to all present that Ms. Caryl
B. Mahoney has resigned as a member of the
Planning Board due to the fact that she moved out
of state. He also stated that Ms. Pat Latona,
Chairperson of the Traffic Commissioner, was
appointed to the Board on April 16, 1986 and her
term runs until the year 1990. The Board welcomed
Ms. Latona as their new member.
The Chairman opened for discussion the Old Road matter.
OLD ROAD
John P. Seligman, Esq. of the Fink, Weinberger, Fredman,
Berman & Lowell Law Firm, 81 Main Street, White Plains, New
York, appeared on behalf of the developer and introduced
Mr. Panayotou.
Mr. Nick F. Panayotou, of Raymond Keyes Associates Inc., 44
Executive Blvd., Elmsford, New York, appeared on behalf of
the developer and stated he is a licensed engineer in New
York and Connecticut.
Mr. Panayotou summarized for the Board that at the November
meeting, they had been given preliminary subdivision
approval subject to several conditions as finalized in a
communication dated January 27, 1986. He stated that he
would provide details responding to the various conditions
of the preliminary approval resolutions.
Mr. Panayotou stated that his firm is very sensitive in the
area of blasting at the site and is prepared to conduct a
test blast to see what impact it would have on the
neighboring community.
In addition, and as part of the final approval, Raymond
Keyes Associates requested that the Board consider granting
final subdivision subject to a successful result of the
test blast to be performed subsequent to approval. Mr.
Panayotou indicated that the Town can send representatives
to the site to see the results for themselves and whether
the level of the blast did cause any adverse impact on the
surrounding area.
Also, it would be arranged to have on-site inspection
during the construction process to look for ground water.
The drains that would be installed alongside the roadway
would then be directed to a drainage facility. Mr.
Panayotou announced that an Erosion Control Plan was
previously provided by the Keyes firm and Performance Bonds
will be submitted by their carrier.
Mr. Panayotou submitted that the plot plan states that they
are offering the roadways, irrevocably, to the Town of
Mamaroneck and this will be further clearly identified.
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It was also presented by Mr. Panayotou that his firm had
been in touch with the persons supplying the sanitary
sewers as well as persons for the gas, telephones and
electrical work along with the adjacent developer, in order
to coordinate their activities.
One of the remaining questions was as to whether or not
they would be allowed to connect directly to the existing
manhole.
The Chairman questioned Mr. Panayotou as to what the time
frame would be.
Mr. Panayotou answered that he hoped to have an
understanding with his neighbor (the adjacent developer)
prior to the next Planning Board meeting.
Mr. Scutaro asked that instead of connecting directly to
his line (the other developer) if another manhole could be
established.
Mr. Panayotou answered that if they connected directly to
his line, they would construct a manhole, but the County of
Westchester wants them to connect to an existing one.
Ms. Latona inquired as to when the firm planned to do a
test blast.
Mr. Panayotou replied that he believed sometime perhaps in
September.
Ms. Latona questioned as to whether or not it made a
difference where the test was done.
Mr. Panayotou responded it would be done in order that no
neighbors would be bothered and it is being tentatively
planned to be done at Gatehouse Lane. It is still a very
sensitive area he stated, perhaps near Lot #4.
Ms. Latona posed the question concerning surrounding area
homes near the proposed test blasting site being inspected.
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Mr. Panayotou said there was a sphere of influence from the
property line and he felt it was a reasonable location with
the type of velocity that they are thinking about -- it
being a low charge he added, was why.
It was further stated by Mr. Panayotou that three or four
feet from the property line or a point in the property
where rock is located — the rock usually being located in
the high ground -- would most likely be the spot to conduct
such a test.
The Chairman inquired as to whether or not the Board had
all of the information they are supposed to have:
1. Site plan map.
2. Two pages of the tree survey.
Mr. Panayotou explained that the landscape plans would be
forthcoming.
Mr. Bell announced that legal counsel was not present and
the Board was desirous of his opinion as to whether the
sewers that are constructed would be deeded to the Tam at
a public hearing, even if the property is not within the
Town of Mamaroneck Sewer District.
Mr. Gary Trachtman covered the question of possibly getting
copies of any correspondence the Keyes firm had with any of
the persons and/or concerns Mr. Panayotou mentioned
earlier.
Mr. Panayotou stated that plans were filed with them and an
easement has to be obtained from their neighbors in order
to connect to the manhole.
Mr. Seligman submitted that they just wanted to clean out
the brush on the property and not do anything further with
it for now.
The Chairman stated that there is some proposed legislation
regarding the Water Conservation Committee and the issue
was going to be questioned at the next Town Council meeting
with Counsel to the Town, Lee Hoffman.
Mr. Trachtman wanted to know how Lot #4 had been determined
as the best place for a test blast.
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Mr. Panayotou explained that the rock is fairly uniform and
they just wanted to pick a convenient area for the test
blast and Lot #4 is close to people living on Gateway.
Mr. Trachtman voiced that perhaps this particular area
would not be representative of what might be encountered in
some other location.
Mr. Panayotou covered the fact that they will move it to a
place that is more dense then because this had to be a
valid test at a point where there is dense rock.
Mr. Trachtman requested Keyes Associates to submit an
evaluation of the proposed test site and Mr. Panayotou said
his request would be honored and that it would be submitted
shortly.
The Chairman read a memo from Mr. William Paonessa,
Building Inspector, wherein it was suggested that the
applicant submit site plan grades.
Mr. Panayotou commented that landscape plans would be
submitted as soon as possible.
The Chairman then opened the hearing to comments from the
audience.
Mr. Lawrence Lerman, Town Councilman, requested a copy of
all documents submitted including the grading plan.
Mr. Joel Negrin commented on the proposed test blast by
saying, "Don't do it in a place that's convenient. Why not
right on Gatehouse Lane? We would like you to test rock
that is closer to us." He further stated that what was
presented was a contingency arrangement pending final
approval which is contingent upon test blasting.
Mr. Negrin expressed his feelings as to the test blast
being done and "the Town being invited." He said the Town
should not be "invited". Rather, the Town should be there
(at the test blasting site).
Mr. Negrin then questioned why there was going to be gravel
parking if the property is going to be cleared of debris.
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Mr. Seligman responded by saying the gravel area was for
snow-removal purposes -- to be used as a turn-around for
the snow plows.
Mr. Panayotou stated that it was his opinion that the rock
could be safely removed by blasting and the only question
was the level of the charge to be used in order to provide
a safe condition for all concerned and that it will be
conducted properly and in a safe manner.
Mr. Gaetano Scutaro asked if a test blast is always done to
which Mr. Panayotou answered yes, that it was being done
elsewhere -- a test blast prior to construction because
heavy equipment is necessary and very expensive to keep
moving.
Mr. Scutaro also asked if all of this equipment had to be
in place for a test to which Mr. Seligman replied that it
did.
Mr. Panayotou stated they would start off with a very small
charge and further determination would be made from there.
Also, the charge would be increased gradually in order to
get the proper results. The main problem is if someone was
in a rush or wanted to save money.
Mr. Panayotou further commented that Mr. Dinan had made a
presentation and the Board took it favorably but that they
did not want to limit themselves to one person. Also, that
a licensed blaster would have to be hired and Mr. Dinan
would be reviewing the blasting procedure.
The Chairman asked Mr. Trachtman for his analysis
and Mr. Trachtman stated he would have comments for the
applicant and the Board in time for them to respond prior
to the next meeting on the matter.
This was done with the Fenbrook subdivision, Mr. Trachtman
stated; the information provided by the technical
engineering firm was reviewed with respect to the location
of the seismograph and representatives of Malcolm Pirnie
were present at the site during the testing. He stated he
was satisfied with the way that procedure worked out.
The Chairman stated that the firm representing the Town was
present subject to the ruling of the Board.
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Mr. Scutaro asked if the (Keyes) firm wanted to be ready to
do the excavating when they are doing the test.
Mr. Panayotou said yes. They are just trying to avoid a
high cost and the specifications have been drawn.
The Chairman requested a copy of the specs.
Mr. Trachtman questioned not only the size of the charge
but what appropriate methods were used to derive the proper
method.
Mr. Panayotou stated that performance specifications will
be provided and if the test is successful, the equipment
will not have to be removed from the site.
Mr. Trachtman asked if any attempt was being made to review
information regarding prior blasting that took place near
Gatehouse Lane and Mr. Panayotou said no.
Mr. Negrin stated that Felix and Mt. Vernon did some
blasting and that they did cause some damage.
The Chairman asked the Board if they were ready to hold a
public hearing on this matter and stated that there had to
be some discussion with their engineer and the developer
first.
Mrs. Carlson asked if that would be the June llth meeting
to which the Chairman responded that it would be June llth.
Mr. Trachtman stated that they might be ready but he
doubted it.
Ms. Latona said she would prefer June because in July,
during the middle of the summer, it is not fair with people
being away on vacation and all.
Mr. Schramm said that he cannot believe everyone is going
to get everything together in only one month.
Mr. Seligman announced that fourteen days is needed for
publishing a public notice and that he will communicate
with the Town by June 1st regarding this.
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The Chairman made a motion to set the Old Road matter down
for a public hearing on June 11, 1986; it was seconded by
Mr. Schramm and unanimously carried.
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The Chairman opened the Garfield matter and stated that
there were some minor changes that may improve safety. He
then read a letter from the Town Administrator, Stephen
Altieri, dated May 6, 1986.
GARFIELD
The Chairman stated that the Town had requested that the
median on Jefferson Street be of concrete instead of grass
in order to provide a pedestrian walkway for safety and
that the Town also requested that certain trees be reduced
in height to permit access of fire equipment. He said that
the Board considered these to be minor matters but they do
promote public goals and it was in the Board's purview to
incorporate them in their final determination.
Mr. Scutaro expressed his opinion as to dirt being needed
around the base of the trees and that trees were necessary
for a country look and for atmosphere.
Mr. Schramm inquired as to whether the developer could use
something more decorative rather than concrete or blacktop
for the walkway.
The Chairman read a letter from Stephen Altieri wherein it
authorized the firm to begin construction. He stated that
if the Board was in doubt about anything, they should
obtain specific clarification.
Mrs. Carlson voiced that she would like more information on
the parking situation.
The Chairman then asked for further comments or questions
from the Board members.
There being no further questions, Mrs. Carlson made a
motion to limit the height of the trees to be planted as
requested in Mr. Altieri's letter. The motion was seconded
by Mr. Scutaro and unanimously carried by the Board.
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Mr. Trachtman indicated that the direction of :the arrow (on
the detour sign) should be modified so faffic goes to
Myrtle.
Mr. Schramm announced that the-eveloper should fix the pot
holes in the road to make them safer.
The Chairman stated that a discussion is needed with Mr.
Altieri in order to ascertain concerns regarding the
proposed parking for the Garfield development.
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The Chairman then opened for discussion the proposed
amendments to the Zoning Ordinance and the proposed density
change from R-30 to R-50 was discussed at length.
ZONING LAW AMENDMENTS
Mr. Lerman stated that the increase in zoning density will
prevent obstruction of the waterfront which is a necessity.
The Chairman indicated that the Board had to act on these
proposed changes within 45 days.
After an informal discussion, on motion by the Chairman,
seconded by Mrs. Carlson, it was unanimously resolved to
recommend changes in the Town Law regarding zoning from a
designated R-30 area to an R-50 classification.
The Chairman said the change is justified because of the
environmental areas involved and stated it would also be a
scenic benefit as well.
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The Chairman opened for discussion the proposed Fresh Water
Wetlands Law and stated that the Town will now be issuing
the permits and that every action which comes before a Town
agenda must be sent to the Coastal Zone Management
Commission for their approval.
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0 FRESH WATER WETLANDS
The Chairman further stated that on matters coming before
both Boards, timing would be parallel and not sequential
regarding the implementation of this new law. He also
announced that Mr. Steve Altieri is the Environmental
Officer for the Town of Mamaroneck.
After an informal discussion, the Chairman reported that no
final action could be taken until more input was obtained.
Mr. Lerman suggested that it even might be necessary to
have a Public Hearing on each of the proposed new laws.
Mr. Trachtman questioned the impact this new legislation
would have on the Town and then read excerpts from the
proposed Fresh Water Wetlands Law.
The Chairman suggested that, due to the late hour, some
other time be allotted to review the proposals.
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Mrs. Carlson suggested that the Board undertake to draft an
updated Zoning Master Plan and the Board took this under
advisement.
ADJOURNMENT
On motion by Mrs. Carlson, seconded by Mr. Bell, the
meeting was unanimously adjourned at 11:35 P.M.
Jean A. Marra
Board Secretary
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