HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989_11_08 Planning Board Minutes MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLANNING BOARD OF THE TOWN OF MAMARONECK
NOVEMBER 8, 1989, IN THE COURTROOM, TOWN CENTER
740 WEST BOSTON POST ROAD
MAMARONECK, NEW YORK
Present: Sanford A. Bell, Chairman
Jerry R. Donatelli
Steven R. Goldstein
Norma Jacobson
Patricia Latona
Alan P. Murray
James J. Romeo
Also Present: Lee A. Hoffman, Jr. , Town Counsel
Gary Trachtman, Consulting Engineer
Lisa Parrilla, Public Stenographer
Carbone, Kazazes & Associates
225 Mt. Pleasant Avenue
Mamaroneck, NY 10543
Bonnie M. Burdick, Recording Secretary
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Bell at 8:21 PM. He
announced that this Board would be meeting with the Town Board at
approximately 9:00 PM which necessitated a fifteen-minute period for
each of the items on the agenda.
CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE AND REQUESTED
REPORT TO TOWN BOARD
Metropolis Westchester Lanes, Inc.
(Loyal Inn Bowling)
2444 Boston Post Road
Block 503 Parcel 137
Mr. Bell reiterated the positions taken at the last meeting of this
Board. Two members had been absent, and no action could be taken
because two members were opposed to a zoning change inconsistent
with the Master Plan Update. The other three members, who did not
constitute a quorum, were willing to continue considering the proposal.
The Town Board had asked for the reaction of the Planning Board without
sending this Board a specific zoning change request. Said change would
be a legislative process, and no further clarification had been
received from the Town Board or the applicant.
Joseph Tringali appeared on behalf of the applicant. He stated that it
was his opinion that the RTA zone would be the closest zone which would
accommodate his proposal.
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The members of the Board were polled informally for their opinions on
this matter.
Mr. Bell stated that the area had been designated an SB Zone under the
Master Plan. He had felt negative towards a six-story building but
might consider a four-story one. Mr. Murray and Mrs. Jacobson agreed
with these views.
Mr. Romeo and Mrs. Latona expressed the opinion that the plans
presented did not suit the topography of the site. Mr. Romeo stated
that the site did have potential for a mixed use.
Mr. Goldstein stated that he felt that a mixed use for the site was not
necessarily inappropriate. How the site was used would influence his
decision. For example, the large rock outcropping could be used as a
buffer from the residential area. Mr. Goldstein stated that a
six-story building would be "overkill".
On motion of Mr. Romeo, seconded by Mr. Murray, the Planning Board
voted unanimously to direct Counsel to draft a memorandum to the Town
Board. Said memo would state that the proposed zone change to allow a
dense six-story development at this site is contrary to the Master Plan
and will be attached to these minutes as an addendum.
CLUSTER GUIDELINES
The Town Board mandated this Board to develop rules and regulations
concerning standards for Cluster Zoning. Daniel Shuster drafted
proposed regulations for the Board to consider. Mr. Hoffman told the
Board that it should use this draft as a suggestion. This Board is
required to consider the cluster alternative under Section 281 of the
Town Law. More units cannot be permitted than in an "as-of-right"
subdivision.
Robert Funicello, attorney, appeared on behalf of the Bonnie Briar
Country Club. He requested that he be noticed directly when discussion
of land use is before this Board.
FEASIBILITY STUDY - LARCHMONT MOTEL
Mr. Bell questioned the role of this Board in the decision about the
use of the Larchmont Motel which the Town has contracted to buy at a
yet-to-be-determined price. He stated that this is an economic, social
and political issue which is hard to treat in a purely planning way.
No specific proposal had been made. Mr. Bell questioned how
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development at the site would fit in with the Master Plan and how the
Urban Renewal Plan would mesh with the Master Plan.
Mr. Murray stated that the creation of an Urban Renewal area was the
expression of the perception that there was blight at the site. Mrs.
Latona stated that in reading the provided material she had difficulty
understanding what was required of this Board as a reaction. She
stated that the document was a financial and economic statement, not a
plan.
Mr. Hoffman stated that the motel site currently has a Special Permit
to allow non-permanent residential use. The Town is proposing
multifamily permanent housing in a Business zone.
Mr. Bell was concerned that the purchase price of the motel property
might affect its future use. Mr. Hoffman stated that the suggested use
could be used as an argument by the Town during the informal
condemnation process. Questions were raised about the ownership of the
building when is was rebuilt. Should it become a cooperative, it would
no longer be affordable housing.
Mr. Hoffman stated that the proposal indicated that the Town is trying
to avoid having the residence be classified as a Tier Two facility.
Said classification has certain requirements. such as 24-hour security,
which could be cumbersome and expensive for the Town. Mrs. Latona
pointed out that the document stated that the facility could be run as
a non-profit agency under a contract with the Department of Social
Services.
TEMPORARY ADJOURNMENT
At 9:20 PM Mr. Bell temporarily adjourned the meeting so that the Board
members could reconvene in Conference Room A.
REOPENING
The meeting was reopened at 9:25 PM. Caroline Silverstone,
Supervisor-Elect and Steven Chapin, Councilman, joined the meeting.
Benson Bieley, reporter for the Sound View News, was also in
attendance.
Mrs. Silverstone stated that the Westhab feasibility study showed what
could be done with public funding and suggested 30 garden apartments.
The Town is now ready to approach the private sector. She asked this
Board for a sense of what it would find acceptable.
Mr. Bell stated his problem of separating being a planner from being a
taxpayer.
Mrs. Latona stated that it was difficult to conceptualize plans other
than what was presented. She questioned whether the Town Board would
be open to suit for spot zoning if the site were rezoned. Mr. Hoffman
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had stated that he was not sure that a suit would occur because the
site is large.
Mr. Altieri brought up the concept of the floating MUB zone as a
possible zone for the site. Mr. Bell stated that this Board had a
problem with said zone as there was a possibility that development
along the Post Road could become too dense. Mr. Altieri stated that
Mr. Shuster, the planner, had felt that the use of the floating zone
could be restricted.
Mrs. Silverstone stated that one area of agreement would be the height
of the building. Mr. Bell reiterated this Board's position that it
does not look favorably on 5- or 6-story buildings. He stated the
problems with the site: it is next to the Hommocks School, and a large
building there would cause traffic problems. Also, the present use of
the motel is a problem. Mr. Bell stated that economic feasibility must
be considered, too. For instance, a park or more soccer fields cannot
be built there.
Mrs. Silverstone stated that the Westhab plan is only possible with
massive funding from grants.
Mr. Donatelli asked about the price of the property which is still
being negotiated. Mrs. Silverstone stated that the assessed value is
$1.6 million and that the motel owners' appraisal is $2.9 million.
These figures were based on the current use and zoning and were done at
a previous date.
Mr. Chapin stated that one goal of the Town Board was affordable
housing and that he felt that 35 garden apartments would generate less
traffic than a shopping center.
Mr. Romeo asked whether the developers who were solicited for proposals
were being offered the land for purchase. Said solicitation is called
an RFP - "Request for Proposal".
Mr. Chapin stated that the Town committee dealing with this area would
meet for the first time on November 20th and that some parameters such
as density limit (number of stories) , and number of affordable housing
units were needed but that some flexibility should be left to the
developers.
Mrs. Silverstone stated that suggestions had been made for congregate
living, particularly for the elderly.
Mr. Chapin stated that subsidies could be explicitly or implicitly
applied. For instance, the Town could sell the land below cost or
build the housing itself as its borrowing capabilities are better than
those of developers. Mrs. Silverstone stated that the Town could have
a "triple net" lease.
Mrs. Silverstone asked how the Planning Board reacted to the proposal
by Westhab. Mr. Murray stated that he had a negative reaction,
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particularly because of the plan to have transients living in the
building for five to seven years. Mrs. Silverstone and Mr. Chapin
pointed out that the suggestion of sheltering transients reflected
Westchester County's vested interest in the study. It had paid for
half of it. Mr. Goldstein asked whether any other source of grants,
such as the Department of Health, had been considered.
Affordable housing is a goal of the Town, Mrs. Silverstone reiterated.
She stated that the Town has been trying to get a developer to buy the
motel for 5 years and the the purchase by the Town had been the
necessary result of these attempts.
Should the site be developed privately, the number of units of
affordable housing has not yet been decided. Mr. Chapin has felt that
20 units might be a good number.
Mrs. Latona, when asked about the size of the building, stated that
this Board has recently been very environmentally conscious. It was
pointed out that the topography of the site could cause part of the
building to be higher than another part. Mr. Romeo commented that
there was no planned discernible change in the appearance of the
building.
Mr. Chapin stated that Westhab had quoted a figure of $500,000 for
demolishing the building. Mr. Donatelli stated that he thought
Westhab's cost projection and time frame for construction both were
unrealistic. He stated that the units were small - one bedroom at 350
square feet would really be a studio. Mr. Romeo agreed that the
proposed prices were too high.
The consensus of the Board was that three driveways at the site were
too many and that a building three stories high at the front of the
site and four stories high at the back would be acceptable.
Mrs. Silverstone and Mr. Chapin thanked the Board for its input and
asked that the members continue to make suggestions.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 10:15 PM.
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Bonnie M. Burdick, Recording Secretary
ADDENDUM
November 8, 1990 1w0q
REPORT
To: Town Board/Town of Mamaroneck Date: 11/16/89
From: Planning Board/Town of Mamaroneck
Re: Zone Change Application of
Loyal Inn Bowling Alley
The Planning Board heard Mr. Tringali, attorney for the applicant, at
its regularly scheduled meetings on October 11, 1989 and November 8,
1989. Mr. Tringali explained the proposal to the Planning Board
members. Between the two meetings, a number of the Planning Board
members visited the site.
The Planning Board recommends against granting the zone change
requested for several reasons. First, there is no zone in the Town of
Mamaroneck which would permit the proposed use. As the applicant
conceded, the closest would be the "RTA" zone, but substantial
variances would be required. Next, the proposal is contrary to the
Master Plan Update which was recently promulgated by the Planning
Board. In particular, the Master Plan Update indicated that this area
should be a "Service Business" zone, in which residential uses would
not be permitted.
The Board did indicate to Mr. Tringali that a smaller building on the
site would receive better consideration. The Planning Board also
C indicated that it was not, as a matter of principle, opposed to some
mixed use business proposal for the site. The Planning Board was
particularly concerned about the impact of a large structure upon the
neighboring residential areas.
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