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TOWN OF MAMARONECK CONSERVATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
AND WATER CONTROL COMMISSION JOINT MEETING
A regular meeting of the Town of Mamaroneck Conservation Advisory
Commission and the Water Control Commission was held on Thursday, October 24,
1985, at the Weaver Street Firehouse. The meeting commenced at 8:05 P.M.
Members present: Dr. C. Alan Mason, Chairman
Mary Anne Johnson, Emeritus
Orlando Ciraco, WCC
Robert Komitor, CAC
James Santos, CAC
Elinor Fredston, CAC & WCC
Robert Hohberg, CAC & WCC
Susan Amlicke, CAC & WCC
Also present: Clifford Emanuelson, Conservation Consultant
Tom Leddy, Beautification Director
Thomas Amlicke, Town Councilman
Administrative Matters:
The minutes for the August and September meetings were approved for
distribution. The next scheduled meeting for the CAC and WCC is Thursday,
November 14, 1985, at 8:00 P.M. , at the Weaver Street Firehouse.
Dr. Mason and Mrs. Fredston will review the new wetlands law and update
the Town's fresh water wetlands law.
The Tree Preservation Commission met with Mr. Maloney regarding tree
removals. After general discussion, Mr. Emanuelson asked to walk the property
with Mr. Leddy to check proposed road site.
Dr. Mason stated that the Natural Resource Maps will be needed for the
Coastal Zone recommendations for fresh water wetlands designation. Mr.
Emanuelson will contact Mr. Erwin to determine the coastal zone management needs.
Development Projects in Works:
Cherry Lawn: Ortwin Meyer reported to Dr. Mason that reasonable erosion
controls are in place and working.
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Development Projects (cont'd)
Maloney Project: Dr. Mason will cheek on status of this project and report
to the Commission at the next meeting.
David's Island: Long Island Task Force is working on this project; the
U.S. Coast Guard is lead agency for this project. Discussion was held on
Joe Bohaf's letter.
Water courses and water bodies:
Reservoir Preservation: Mr. Emanuelson reported on the meeting with Nan Forger
and Bob and Birgit Deforia concerning Village property plantings. A general
discussion of possible earthquake damage to the main dam was held; it was rec-
omended that the Village Engineer look at the main dam for possible damage.
Mamaroneck River Summer Project: Mr. Hohberg reported his work project is
complete and typing is in its final stages. Report will be presented at a
Board meeting at a later date. Mr. Hohberg suggested a list of potential
pool dumpers be developed.
A general discussion of septic tank sludge discharges and detaching of point
polutions was held.
Mrs. Johnson reported there is a sediment build up in the Premium area.
Mrs. Johnson will draft a letter for Dr. Mason to forward to the Town Supervisor
requesting a check of the depth of sediment build up since the last study.
Solid Waste Disposal:
Work is underway on the county disposal contract; drains and screening
are being done.
There will be a presentation to the Board concerning revamping the Recycling Ctr &
mandatory newspaper pickup at a later date. The need for enforcement procedures
was discussed. It was suggested that Ben Larkey be invited to attend the
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next CAC meeting to explore mandatory newspaper recycling.
Two letters from Mr. Fred Kellogg, Sanitation Superintendent, concerning
possible mandatory recycling are attached.
Recycling report from Mrs. Gloria Allen is attached.
There being no further business to discuss, the meeting was adjourned.
Dated: October 24, 1985
• REPORT OF MRS. GLORIA ALLEN - RECYCLING
On October 10, 1985, Mrs. Allen met with. Jane Moss., Dorothy Rainier
and Louise of the L.I.F.E. Center. They are working on several
aspects of recycling:
1. Dorothy Rainier contacted Ina Meyers of the Standard Star to ask her to
print a "Recycle" logo on the front of their newspaper to encourage
recycling of newspapers. However, Ina Meyers replied that that was
"not practical".
2. They suggested contacting the Newcomers Club to include a flyer explaining
recycling to new residents.
3. They will contact the person in each school responsible for contacting
new parents to ask them to mention recycling.
4. They will ask the PTA to put recycling on the school calendar every
Wednesday.
5. They will prepare a slide show for the schools and distribute a flyer
at the same time.
6. They will ask the schools to collect mixed paper garbpge for recycling
as a positive reenforcement for the children. They will ask the Town
garbage collection if they would send a truck to the schools each Wednesday
to pick up the mixed paper after the newspaper pickups are finished
for the day (which seems to be quite early) .
A message about recycling appeared in the Town newsletter that came out
in. late September. A message about recycling will appear in the Larchmont
Village newsletter soon to come out.
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LARCHMONT-MAMARONECK JOINT GARBAGE DISPOSAL COMMISSION
740 WEST POST ROAD
MAMARONECK. NEW YORK 10543
October 15, 1985
MEMO TO: Supervisor Dolores Battalia and All Councilmen
Mayor Miriam Curnin and All Trustees
CAC Chairman C. Alan Mason, Mrs. Susan Amlicke
FROM: Fred F. Kellogg, Jr. , Sanitation Superintendent
RE: Recycling Update
Dear Officials:
In furtherance of my understanding of a request made by Trustee James
Anderson at the September 23, 1985, Board meeting, I have prepared an updated
interim report of the paper recycling program through the end of September,
1985.
At that meeting, Mayor Curnin requested that hauling costs be shown in
any comparisons, so I have changed the format slightly to reflect that.
Therefore, you will see that several columns customarily filled in in the
table have been left blank so that the cost summary shown on page 2 can be
made.
In addition to the interim report for January 1 - September 30, we have
also enclosed a copy of the Annual Report for 1984 so that the differences
in reporting may be noted.
Respectfully submitted,
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Sanitation Superintendent
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Enclosure
Report date: 10/15/85
SUMMARY OF COSTS BASED ON 612.0 TONS
COLLECTED FROM JANUARY 1, 1985, THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 1985
COSTS OF NEWSPAPER COSTS IF NEWSPAPER
PROGRAM WERE GARBAGE
Cost to collect (taken @ $35/ton) : $21,420.00 $21,420.00
Cost to transfer (operating cost @
$22.25* + capital depreciation &
insurance taken @ $3.75 = $26/ton**) $15,912.00 $15,912.00
Tolls - 12 mos. @ $49.13/mo. average 589.56 -0-
Cost to dump @ Croton @ $17/ton -0- $10,404.00
Revenue from sale @ paper mill (at
various prices ranging from $38
to $25 - See interim report) $20,727.60 -0-
TOTALS: $17,193.96 $47,736.00
Differential cost is $30,542.04, which amount is the saving by recycling & selling
paper rather than paying to have it burned as garbage .
* Developed price in present Comm. contract with Westchester County
** Comparable to private carters @ $27.00 to $29.00, but excluding profit
FOOTNOTE: The distance to the paper mill is 35 miles; the distance to Charles Point
is 36.5 miles, considered a standoff for analysis purposes.
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Jan. 1, 1985 - Sept. 30, 1985
•• INTERIM REPORT
4 MIXED PAPER & CLEAN NEWSPAPER RECYCLING PROGRAM - 1985
MONEY SAVED FROM F'F:VE US + SAVED
REVENUES DUE $17/TON DUMP FEE DUMP FEES = TOTAL
MONTH TONS FROM SALE NOT PAID @ CHARLES PT. MONEY SAVED PER MO.
JANUARY (F) 50.0
(E) 11.2
FEBRUARY (F) 62.1
MARCH (F) 63.5
APRIL (F) 61.3
MAY (F) 67.6
(H) 13.4
JUNE (F) 47.7
(J) 11.5
JULY (G) 51.4
(H) 13.3
AUGUST (G) 78.3
(H) 12.7
SEPTEMBER (G) 68.0
OCTOBER
NOVEMBER
DECEMBER
ANNUAL TOTALS:
(A) = $43.00 per ton for clean "loose newspaper" (January, 1984 only)
(B) = $48.00 per ton paid for clean "loose newspaper" (February 1984 through December 1984)
(C) = $16.00 per ton paid for certain "loose newspaper" with contaminants well over 1%
(D) = $8.00 per ton paid for "wastepaper" (i.e. , magazines, cardboard, catalogs, etc. )
(E) = $25.00 per ton paid for slightly contaminated "loose newspaper" (11.2 tons for this interval;
(F) = $38.00 per ton for clean news (January through June, 1985) (352.2 tons for this interval)
(G) = $30.00 per ton for clean news (July through October, 1985) (209.2 tons for this interval)
(H) = $20.00 per ton for contaminated newspaper (209.2 tons for this interval)
( = $30.00 per ton for slightly contaminated newspaper
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LARCHMONT-MAMARONECK JOINT GARBAGE DISPOSAL COMMISSION
• 740 WEST POST ROAD
MAMARONECK. NEW YORK 10543.
January 2, 1985
MEMO TO: Commissioner Miriam Curnin & Commissioner Dolores Battalia
FROM: Fred F. Kellogg, Jr. , Sanitation Superintendent
RE: Newspaper & Mixed Paper Recycling
Dear Commissioner Curnin & Commissioner Battalia:
In accordance with your instructions to me on the above subject, I am appending
hereto a copy of my report to you on the mixed paper and clean newspaper recycling
figures for 1984.
The pricing structure is different because, as you know, the clean news sold for
$43.00 per ton early in 1984 and then rose to $48.00 per ton for the rest of the year.
The mixed paper had varying prices, and an occasional contaminated load got sold for
the best we could get for it depending on the quality. Each of these is indicated
by footnotes on the summary sheet attached.
Bearing in mind that the tipping fee at Peekskill is $17.00 per ton and that we
receive a revenue of $48.00 per ton for clean news sold, this means that there is a
real savings of $65.00 for every ton of clean news that is source separated and does
not have to be burned at Peekskill. Please don't ask Carmine to show you a surplus
figure in a budget because the attached savings are simply monies not spent because
we perform the recycling program rather than ignoring the recycling philosophy.
Glass figures will be assembled and forwarded to you when all of the slips have
been added up. The current prices for recycled glass are as follows:
Brown Glass - $15.00 per ton
Green Glass - $15.00 per ton
Clear Glass - $30.00 per ton
Very truly yours,
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Fred F. Kellogg, Jr.
Sanitation Superintenden
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Attachment
cc Secretary-Treasurer Carmine DeLuca
Mr. Archie Messenger (in response to his letter of 12/11/84, copy attached)
` ANNUAL REPORT
MIXED PAPER & CLEAN NEWSPAPER RECYCLING PROGRAM - 1984
MONEY SAVED FROM REVENUES + SAVED
REVENUES DUE $17/TON DUMP FEE DUMP FEES = TOTAL
MONTH TONS FROM SALE NOT PAID @ CHARLES PT. MONEY SAVED PER MO.
JANUARY (A) 19.9 $ 857.42 $ 338.30 $ 1,195.72
(E) 21.3 533.13 362.10 895.23
FEBRUARY (B) 28.0 1345.44 476.00 1,821.44
MARCH (B) 50.6 2426.88 860.20 3,287.08
APRIL (B) 70.3 3373.44 666.40 4,039.84
(D) 12.0 96.08 204.00 300.08
MAY (B) 72.4 3475.20 1230.80 4,706.00
(D) 13.3 106.40 226.10 332.50
JUNE (B) 75.6 3628.80 1285.20 4,914.00
(D) 12.6 100.80 214.20 315.00
JULY (B) 50.1 2404.80 851.70 3,256.50
AUGUST (B) 40.2 1929.60 683.40 2,613.00
0 (D) 8.8 70.40 149.60 220.00
SEPTEMBER (B) 57.0 2736.00 969.00 3,705.00
OCTOBER (B) 80.9 3883.20 1375.30 5,258.50
(D) 9.7 77.60 164.90 242.50
NOVEMBER (B) 47.1 2260.80 800.70 3,061.50
(D) 14.7 117.60 249.90 367.50
DECEMBER (B) 48.7 2337.60 827.90 3,165.50
(E) 4.7 117.50 79.90 197.40
1984 ANNUAL TOTALS: $31,878.69 $12,015.60 $43,894.29
(A) = $43.00 per ton for clean "loose newspaper" (January, 1984 only)
(B) = $48.00 per ton paid for clean "loose newspaper" (February 1984 through December 1984)
(C) = $16.00 per ton paid for certain "loose newspaper" with contaminants well over 1%
(D) = $8.00 per ton paid for "wastepaper" (i.e. , magazines, cardboard, catalogs, etc.)
(E) = $25.00 per ton paid for slightly contaminated "loose newspaper"
LARCHMONT-MAMARONECK JOINT GARBAGE DISPOSAL COMMISSION
740 WEST POST ROAD
MAMARONECK. NEW YORK 10543
October 17, 1985
MEMO TO: Mayor and All Trustees, Supervisor and All Councilmen
FROM: Fred F. Kellogg, Jr. , Sanitation Superintendent
RE: Possible mandatory recycling
Dear Officials:
Supervisor Battalia has indicated to me that questions have been asked and
suggestions made that some mandatory paper recycling legislation be enacted across
the district served by this Commission and, possibly, Mamaroneck Village as well.
I wrote a report on this subject in approximately 1974 or 1975, which report
is in the archives and not readily available; but my view on the matter has not
changed from then until now.
In short, it is the problem of enforcement that makes the concept unworkable
and uneconomical. If our sanitation men know that they cannot pick up newspaper
and if they discover it in the garbage, we will receive 300-400 phone calls per
day over disputed garbage (unacceptable in the sanitation man's view) that the
resident believes he paid his taxes to have collected.
We would have to hire one additional enforcement officer to accompany each of
our five garbage routes, full time, to do nothing but make judgments and settle
disputes as to which garbage was worthy of being picked up and which was in violation
of the mandatory recycling ordinance.
Whether the Union would allow such an inspection and arbitration officer to
disassemble and segregate the garbage, thus delaying the truck and the rest of the
crew, is, yet, another question.
The additional cost of such an operation, presuming a salary of $16,000 for each
individual and 40% on top of that, would yield an annual cost of $112,000 to put these
enforcement officers/arbitrators in the field to force the system to work. This number
far exceeds the earnings, and the resentment that would be generated would be 10 times
as bad as that occasioned by the Seat Belt Law because of its attempt to reach into
personal and private habits of the individual.
This is, in substance, what my earlier memo said.
Very truly yours,
of Fred llogg, Jr-
Sanitation Superintendent
cc Mr. Carmine DeLuca
Mr. Steve Altieri