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Town of Mamaroneck
Conservation Advisory Commission
Area Code 914
740 West Boston Post Road
Mamaroneck, N. Y. 10543 381-6133
MINUTES
A regular meeting of the Conservation Advisory Commission (CAC) was held on
Thursday, November 19, 1987, at the Town Center, 740 West Boston Road,
Mamaroneck, N. Y. The meeting commenced at 8:10 P.M.
Members Present: Robert Komitor, Chairman
Charles Bernstein
Mary Anne Johnson, Emeritus
James Santos
Others Present: Bonnie Burdick, Larchmont Village Reservoir Committee
Kathryn Clarke, Resident, Village of Mamaroneck
Robert Hohberg, Water Monitoring Consultant
P. Thomas Leddy, Beautification Director
Claudia Ng, Environmental Coordinator
Frederick A. Lewis, Recording Secretary
Administrative Matters
Approval of Minutes - The minutes for the meetings of July 16 and
September 17, 1987, were approved. The minutes for the October 15, 1987,
meeting were approved pending submission of several corrections by Mrs.
Johnson who will submit them to Ms. Ng and Mr. Lewis. Mr. Komitor
complimented the completeness of the minutes.
Building Entry - Mr. Komitor complained of difficulty in gaining entry
into the Center on one occasion because of locked doors and indicated that
this may account for the lack of attendance at meetings. Mrs. Burdick, on
staff at the Center, commented on the problem of leaving the building opened
at night and suggested that persons trying to gain entry into the building at
night for a meeting and discover that the doors are locked, can use the
outside stairway on the left side of the building which leads to the
Conference Room. While the door on top of the stairway is locked, they can
knock and someone can go down and open up the entrance door.
Next Meeting - The next meeting was scheduled for Thursday, December 17,
1987, at 8:00 P.M.
Liaison Assignments - Mr. Komitor stated that he and Ms. Ng discussed
liaison assignments for the various Town and villages boards. He advised
that assignments to the various municipal boards were previously based upon
residency. At this point, Mrs. Johnson questioned whether the Commission was
still receiving notices from boards and Mr. Komitor advised that both the
Commission and liaisons are receiving notices. The suggestion was made that
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the Commission coordinate the assigning of liaisons with CZMC liaision
coverages as a means of determining which meetings were in need of coverage.
After further discussion on the subject, Mr. Komitor advised that he and Ms.
Ng will continue working on the assignments.
Mr. Komitor also advised that a vacancy exists on the Village of
Mamaroneck CZMC and he felt that it would be to the Commission's benefit if
one of the members could be appointed as a member of the village CZMC. He
therefore asked Mr. Bernstein if he would consider having his name submitted
as a possible candidate for the vacancy and Mr. Bernstein consented. A
village meeting is scheduled for next Monday at which time Mr. Bernstein
would be presented to the Village Commission.
Mr. Komitor further advised that representation is needed on the County
CAC and EMC. Ms. Ng questioned whether Irma Volk was being used as a
representative since she originally belonged to, and still is a member of the
County EMC. It was clarified that Mrs. Volk was appointed to fill the
vacancy of Mrs. Faust who had resigned.
Environment
Tree Preservation Law Revision - Mr. Komitor stated that Ms. Ng is
suggesting revision of the law inasmuch as the Chairman of the CAC, who is
one of only three members that make up the Tree Commission who are authorized
to conduct tree inspections, is unavailable during the weekdays to make such
inspections with the other members on account that he works in New York
City. The Law presently states that the Commission is composed of the CAC
Chairman, Building Inspector and the Highway Superintendent. Ms. Ng is
suggesting that the Law be reworded to state "the above persons or their
designees".
It was briefly outlined that the Tree Commission was responsible for the
review of all trees equal to or greater than six inches in diameter which are
planned for removal. Dangerous or hazardous trees are outside the realm of
this jurisdiction and can be cut down without a tree permit. There are
specific conditions for the cutting down of good trees.
Mrs. Johnson cited problems they were having in the Village of Larchmont
and indicated that they had no tree law. Further discussion was held on the
cutting down of trees and the replacing of them. Mr. Bernstein questioned
Con Edison's authority to trim trees because of interference with electrical
wires. He cited one oak tree which was left as a "totem pole" by Con Ed but
Mr. Bernstein could not recall the exact location of the tree. Mr. Komitor
advised that Con Ed does have authority for trimming trees but cannot destroy
trees. Mrs. Johnson questioned whether the tree law provided protection for
the removal of big trees and replacing of them. Mr. Leddy indicated that it
did and he cited the last inspection made by the Tree Commission when they
recommended a number of replacements to which the property owner agreed to
do. Mr. Komitor inquired whether the property at 17 Wagon Wheel Road was
inspected and Mr. Leddy advised that he will be inspecting the trees on that
property next Monday. Other tree conditions were mentioned in the Saxon Glen
area and Old Road. Mr. Santos questioned whether tree businesses in the area
are aware of the Town's tree regulations and Mrs. Johnson suggested that they
should be reminded. Mr. Leddy advised that property owners are required to
secure permits and tree businesses should make it their business to be aware
of the regulations. When the question of fines were raised, Ms. Ng secured a
copy of the Town code book and read to the Commission that a violation of the
tree law would be a misdemeanor with a fine up to $1,000. In addition, a
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civil penalty could be issued in which a $100 fine could be placed on each
tree illegally removed and for every day that the violation continues. Mrs.
Burdick suggested that information concerning the tree regulations be placed
in the Town Newsletter and the new resident packet.
Going back to the proposed revision of the Tree Preservation Law, Mr.
Komitor stated that he thought the revision would be unnecessary and
suggested that Ms. Ng refer the matter to the Town Attorney for his opinion
concerning whether any member of the Commission could make tree inspections
with the Building Inspector and Highway Superintendent under the extant law.
Litter Control - Mr. Komitor questioned whether the Town has passed the
litter law but Ms. Ng and Mr. Leddy advised that nothing has been done as the
priority matter at this time is the budget. When asked whether a litter law
is presently in effect, Ms. Ng replied that currently there is no single
comprehensive law; litter is briefly covered under three separate laws
(Conservation Areas, Garbage and Rubbish, and Parks).
Ms. Ng briefed the Commission on the recommendations made by CZMC on the
new proposed law, copies of which had already been sent to CAC members.
Mr. Komitor advised that Ms. Ng had sent him a copy of an old notice
which was sent to community residents concerning littering of the nearby
conservation area. He has made revisions to this notice and requested Ms. Ng
to sent it to the Commission members for consideration at the next meeting.
Mrs. Johnson stated that another notice was sent out years ago concerning
streams. She will try to find a copy of it for submission to the Commission
Natural Resources Inventory (NRI) Revisions - Ms. Ng reported on the
subject. She presented the three existing NRI maps for review. These were
done in 1975 (two were revised in 1977) by Cliff Emanuelson, former CAC
consultant. One map showed open space areas and marshes. The second map
showed just waterways. The third map included flood-prone areas. Ms. Ng
also informed the Commission of her discussion with a member of the Yorktown
CAC who recently won an award for their Natural Resources Map. The map,
according to Ms. Ng, was not as colorful as this Commission's, but was much
more detailed. The maps showed topography with overlays showing vegetation,
hydrology and wetlands, slopes and bedrock, and soils. From an analysis of
these maps, they made a composite map showing environmental constraints. Ms.
Ng is trying to get a set of the Yorktown maps but the cost is $50.00. She
therefore is just trying to get a portion of them.
Mr. Santos advised that his idea for the maps was making people in the
community aware of conservation areas, recreational facilities, walking
trails, marshes and wildlife. He suggests an overall type of map showing all
of these things which can be sold possibly for 25 cents especially to real
estate people for distribution. He further suggested that the tree
regulations be placed on back of the maps.
Mrs. Johnson also presented a set of maps which showed walking areas,
rivers, marshes, trails, etc. , throughout the community. She distributed
copies of maps of the Sheldrake Reservoir, the Premium River - Pine Brook
Wetlands Complex, Sheldrake River trails, and viewing locations for recently
acquired county lands.
Discussion continued on the NRI maps, on the maps contained in the walk
books, the various areas covered in the maps and books, and the possibility
of having a composite map. During the course of the discussion, Mrs. Johnson
gave a historical outline on the acquisition of parkland, marshes, wetlands
and trail areas within the community.
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Ms. Ng raised the question of the Natural Resources Inventory and asked
the Commission what they wanted to do about it. If it were to be revised,
volunteers will be needed. She further stated that Cliff Emanuelson had
begun some of the work by assigning some batches of the areas to L.I.F.E.
Center volunteers to note changes in the streams. Ms. Ng said that it would
be necessary to form a committee to coordinate activities with the use of
volunteers. A discussion took place on what should be included in the
inventory such as vegetation overlays, soil, etc. Mr. Santos asked whether
Mamaroneck High School students were given community service assignments and
whether they could be of assistance on this project. Mr. Hohberg raised
doubts about such a possibility. Mrs. Johnson stated that college students
assisted in previous programs and suggested their participation in the
inventory.
In conclusion, Mr. Komitor asked Mr. Santos if he would like to work on
the residentially-oriented map with Ms. Ng's help to which he agreed. As for
the NRI map revisions, Mr. Komitor suggested the forming of a subcommittee
first to determine how detailed the map should be and then look at the
resources available to get the job done. The Commission agreed.
Development Projects
WHS Harbor, Inc. , - 115-133 Mamaroneck Avenue - Ms. Ng reported that she
has the FEIS of the proposed project. She stated that she did not realize
until today that the comments for the statement is due tomorrow (11/20) and
cited this as a reason for the importance of having liaisons to village board
meetings. The matter will be heard at the Village of Mamaroneck Planning
Board meeting on Monday, November 23. Unfortunately, because of the
limitations upon her time and other pressing business, Ms. Ng stated that she
neglected to complete the reading of the Statement. However, Ms. Ng
displayed a map from the Statement showing the outlay of the proposed
condominiums and briefed the Commission on matters of importance concerning
the project. The applicant is proposing 89 residential units with eight, 311
square feet of retail space. Questions were raised concerning commerical
space as well as access to the site. One of the problems brought to light
was the design in which there are areas in the back where there is only two
to three feet of space (or less) between the buildings and the riverbank of
the Mamaroneck River. The map and overlays of the proposed construction were
discussed in detail by the Commission. The question of flooding was raised.
Ms. Ng. advised that according to FEIS, the drainage system is supposed to
withstand a 100-year frequency storm. Discussion was held on the commerical
areas, the two level of garage space, and the construction alternatives
offered by the developers. Questions were also raised about the sea walls in
the area. Mr. Hohberg advised that a big County sewer line was in the area
and he questioned how much pressure could be put on it. Mr. Hohberg further
questioned other points of the construction. Questions were also raised
about the oil system and provisions for cleaning it out. Ms. Ng read a
paragraph of the Statement concerning catch basins with baffled outlets.
Mrs. Johnson questioned this and suggested that we support CZMC in requesting
larger catch basins with programs for maintenance and monitorization in
situations. Ms. Ng further advised that the Village of Larchmont has a law
or building code for indoor garage facilities which requires that the drain
pipe must go through the sanitary sewer system. However, Ms. Ng was not sure
whether this applies to the Village of Mamaroneck. She further advised that
she did not have plans for the construction and could not determine where the
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system will be going. Ms. Ng also stated that a dumpster will be placed at
the rear of the property and will be dumped by truck. This again raised the
question of access and the increased possibility of stream pollution. Mr.
Hohberg questioned the Commission's responsibility with regard to the FEIS.
Ms. Ng stated that the Commission was given the opportunity to comment on it
under the State Environmental Quality Review Act. She further advised that
the FEIS was accepted by the Mamaroneck Village Planning Board, but the
project has not yet been approved. The Planning Board will meet on November
23 where they will make a final decision on the development. Mr. Hohberg
suggested that the Commission strongly question the infringement on the sewer
line along the bank. Other concerns which the Commission wanted the Planning
Board to address were oil runoff, dumpster, and the need for a buffer zone
between the buildings and river. Mr. Komitor requested Ms. Ng to prepare a
draft of the Commission's concerns by tomorrow for submission. Mr. Hohberg
stated that he would assist Ms. Ng in this undertaking. Mr. Komitor also
suggested that Ms. Ng contact the Village CZMC to find out what their
comments are. Ms. Ng said that she would attend the Village of Mamaroneck
Planning Board meeting to help clarify the Commission's concerns.
Water Courses and Water Bodies
Water Quality Report - Mr. Hohberg submitted his Water Quality Report on
Guion Creek and reported that Guion Creek receives the waters of Beaver Swamp
Brook which is in the Town of Rye. The biggest problem area was Station G2
-- near the Continental Manor which showed a coliforms of 2,400. There have
been drainage problems in the area for years. The hugh culvert goes
underneath Boston Post Road. It was pointed out that the trouble is only
upstream and has no effect downstream. Mr. Hohberg stated that the culverts
perform like a bathtub and holds pollution back and this is probably why
there is no problem downstream. He also stated that the beaches were
probably not closed because when the high tide comes in the water is
diluted. The pollution can only be picked up at low tide because at high
tide, the water is like a hydraulic force. Mr. Hohberg recommended the
investigation of the culvert and its connections. Mr. Komitor and Mr.
Hohberg plan to present this and two other water quality reports to/in the
Village of Mamaroneck to the Village of Mamaroneck Board of Trustees.
Stormwater Management Through Watershed Planning Workshop - Ms. Ng
reported that she attended a seminar held on October 22 in White Plains. The
seminar was sponsored by the Westchester Soil and Conservation District and
ideas on stormwater management was discussed. The Beaver Swamp Brook
Watershed Management Plan which used computer simulation to determine stream
flow and impacts of proposed land uses on flooding was presented. Mr.
Bernstein commented on the Beaver Swamp Brook report as well as on a report
on Mamaroneck Harbor entitled Storm Drainage Into Mamaroneck Harbor. The
report on the harbor was not available for distribution and Mr. Bernstein
ordered a copy but has not received it yet.
Continuing with her report, Ms. Ng stated that the Village of Mamaroneck
Manager was present at the seminar and indicated an interest in having a
computer simulation for the Mamaroneck system. Ms. Ng suggested that the
Commission may want to consider making a proposal or a multiple-year project
plan. In conclusion, Ms. Ng will try to secure a copy of the Mamaroneck
Harbor report and it was agreed to hold off on the Beaver Swamp report until
the Harbor report is received and studied.
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New or Other Business
Construction Complaints - At the conclusion of the discussion on trees,
Mr. Leddy reported that he has been receiving telephone calls concerning
construction with large equipment taking place at the dead end of Norwood
Drive (near the New Rochelle line). He advised the Commission that five
sewers are being replaced in the area and they are coming through the
conservation area. Mr. Leddy further stated that he visited the area today
and found it badly torn up. It is a County project funded by the State. He
also pointed out that some sixty sewers in the area would be worked on.
Discussion ensued and concern raised with regard to the stormwater drains in
the area and disconnection of drainage and the fact that notification was
just given to New Rochelle residents and not the residents of Larchmont.
Trapper's Leghold Traps - Mrs. Kathryn Clarke, resident of Mamaroneck
Village, displayed a leghold trap used by trappers in trapping small animals
and explained its operation to the Commission. However, she found that she
was unable to set and spring it for the Commission. A neighbor walking in
the Migid's Pond area with her daughter had nearly tripped over this one.
The displayed trap was illegal because it did not have a nameplate which is
required by State law. Mrs. Clark advised that four such traps have been
found, two of which were located near Rye High School. Two of the traps were
illegal and two were legal. They are set primarily at this time for the
purpose of trapping raccoons as there is an active market for the fur in New
York City. The trapper and owner of the traps is a Mamaroneck Village
policeman. He is a licensed trapper. The small game hunting season is from
November 7 through March. The trapper claims the traps were legally set.
Set traps must be checked every twenty four hours.
The question was raised whether setting traps on private property was
legal. Mrs. Clark produced a booklet from the State Conservation Department
which said that permission must be obtained to hunt on private property.
However, it was emphasized in the booklet that it is just a regulations
guide. DEC officials said that licensed trappers can trap anywhere unless
the property has "no trespassing" signs posted every 200 feet. Further
discussion and concerns were expressed about setting traps in popular walking
areas where children play.
Mrs. Clarke further advised that the Town of Harrison adopted a
resolution at their Town Council meeting last night to post all Town
property. However, there is a cost problem of the metal plates which must be
posted in so many places. Mrs. Clarke also stated that she believes Suffolk
County has passed legislation banning leghold traps. However, the
legislation is being contested in court on the basis of political
jurisdiction. The Town of Greenburgh passed a similar law and has not been
challenged as yet. She further advised that there has been numerous attempts
made on the State level to pass legislation banning trapping on grounds of
cruelty but they have been contested on the grounds of constitutional
rights. Ronald Tocci, State Legislator from New Rochelle, is attempting to
have State laws amended to let Counties affect their own hunting and trapping
regulations and Mrs. Clarke feels that this is a beginning step.
She suggested to the Commission that there was a need to invetigate the
private property question, push for the posting of Town property, support
Assemblyman Tocci's efforts to amend the State laws, and support public
education to warn community of traps. It was questioned whether the
Commission should propose to the Town and Villages an ordinance to ban traps.
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.
Mrs. Clarke again placed emphasis on public education and warning residents
of the traps and their danger. The legality of trapping in locally dedicated
conservation areas was questioned and discussed.
Mr. Komitor advised Mrs. Clarke that the Commission will make
recommendations to the Town Board as well as the Village Boards expressing
the concerns discussed and to address the issue of posting and/or the
adoption of appropriate ordinances. Mr. Komitor will prepare the letter of
recommendations.
CAC General Information Booklet - Ms. Ng advised that the 1987 Annual
Report project should be started in January because it must be completed by
April 1. She suggested, therefore, that we postpone the preparation of the
CAC General Information Booklet although money had been appropriated for it.
Mr. Leddy advised that they could encumber the funds for it by submitting a
memorandum to the Town. The Commission agreed to the suggestions and
requested Ms. Ng to prepare such a memorandum.
Solid Waste Disposal
Recycling Improvements - Ms. Ng briefly reported that they were
contacting different markets to see if they could get a better deal and a two
year contract which is State mandated for funding. They are nearing a final
decision with three possibilities outside of Garden State Paper Company.
Meeting adjourned at 10:35 P.M.
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