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Town of Mamaroneck Planning Board Minutes
November 12, 2008
Present: Marc Rosenbaum, Chair
C. Alan Mason, arrived late
John A. Ortiz
Ellen Dunkin
Virginia Picciotto
George Roniger
Edmund Papazian
Also Present: Ron Carpaneto, Director of Building
Kevin G. Ryan, Counsel
Nancy Seligson, Liaison
John Avellino, P.E
Ellen Korn, Alternate
Elizabeth Paul, Environmental Coordinator
Wanda Spevedula, Public Stenographer
Carbone&Associates, LTD.
111 N. Central Park Avenue
Hartsdale, New York 10530
Francine Brill, Recording Secretary
1. Minutes
The minutes of October 15, 2008 were approved by motion of Mr. Ortiz, seconded by Mr.
Picciotto, unanimously 6-0.
The applications were taken out of order.
2. Application of John Lage (Car Wash) 2434 Boston Post Road Special Use Permit
Postponed.
3. Application of 4 Rocky Hollow, Special Use Permit
No one appeared and the matter was postponed to the December 10, 2008 meeting.
4. 5 Guys Burgers 1262 Boston Post Road Special Use Permit
On Motion of Ms. Dunkin seconded by Ms. Picciotto the Public Hearing was opened.
Paul Noto of 650 Halstead Avenue the applicants architect appeared and addressed the
Board. Mr. Noto stated that his client was there to apply for a special use permit to open a
burger restaurant in the space currently occupied by Village Square Bagels. Mr. Noto stated
that the only issue is the Special Use Permit, there are no zoning issues and the Building
Department opined that the application is for use as a restaurant.
Mr. Noto stated that there will be no external changes to the building facade and they will go
before the BAR for signs the only changes will be internal. There are 160 parking spaces in
the lot and Town Code requires 1 parking space for each 50 sq. ft. of floor space devoted to
patron use, requiring 23 spaces for 5 Guy's who usually require the land lord to supply 35
spaces for their other establishments
Robert Stanziale, Architect for 5 Guy's appeared and addressed the Board. Mr. Stanziale
stated that the space in question is 1,996 square feet. Mr. Stanziale stated they will have 40
seats in the patron area, handicapped rest rooms and a delivery entrance in the rear.
The Board questioned the menu and were told that it will be Burgers, Hot Dogs, Grilled
Cheese, Vegetable Sandwich and Fries.
Mr. Noto stated that 5 Guys want to encourage sit down dining and are changing their
concept to fit in with the Town's requirements. This restaurant will have wait service as well
as a counter for takeout service. The food is made to order and will be served on plates.
Mr. Noto stated that the definition of a fast food establishment is the sale of ready to consume
food and beverages. Food will be served by a wait staff to be consumed on the premises
and take out service is considered an accessory.
Mr. Ryan counsel to the Board stated that the Director of Building makes the call as to
whether or not an application falls under a permitted use.
Dr. Mason arrived at the meeting.
The Chair opened the meeting to questions from the public.
Mary McCabe owner of Belizzi Restaurant 1262 Boston Post Road stated that 5 Guy's have
a fabulous product, but she is worried about parking as she stated that they have to valet
park cars on the weekends. Also Ms. McCabe stated that she is concerned as to where the
dumpster will be placed for 5 Guy's. Mr. Carpaneto answered that the dumpster should be
placed in the rear of the building 25 ft. from the residential property line.
Mr. Rosenbaum asked if Mr. Carpaneto would check where the dumpster should be placed
for the purpose of health and safety, and who would do a parking study. Mr. Carpaneto
stated that it has already been worked and that the calculation will be provided by the next
meeting to be entered into the record.
Ms. McCabe also stated the need for a pedestrian walkway for safety
Ted Tanney a resident of the Town stated that he is a neutral party, but the parking lot is
jammed on the weekends and the exit onto Boston Post Road in dangerous and needs a
traffic light.
Gail Koller stated that the entrance to the parking lot from Boston Post Road is dangerous
that there have been a number of near misses. Ms. Koller also stated her concern over the
restaurants use of peanut oil stating it could be a health issue for someone who is allergic.
Janet Rogow a teacher in Mamaroneck High School stated that anyone in the center should
be of service to the community and that she was concerned that HS student's drive in that
area and there have been 30 accidents in the past.
Betsy Steers of Myrtle Blvd. stated that she climbs the wall to get into the shopping center
because of the unsafe entrance into the shopping center, Ms. Steers also stated her concern
about garbage in the parking lot and that someone from 5 Guy' should be required to clean it.
Donald Mazin attorney for Village Square Bagels appeared and addressed the Board. Mr.
Mazin stated that the application is defective and should be rejected he entered a highlighted
application into the record marked exhibit A.
Exhibit B original Zoning Application asking for a fast food restaurant.
Exhibit C information from the web site
Exhibit D Wikipedia information about 5 Guy's
Exhibit E Photo
Exhibit F Photo
Exhibit G Photo
Exhibit H Photo
Exhibit I Photo
Exhibit J Menu from the web site
Exhibit K petition in favor of Village Square Bagel with 1,138 signatures.
Exhibit L an email from Alan Benet
Exhibit M a letter from Jean Meyerowitz
Mr. Mason wanted to know how the Building Department determined the application is for a
restaurant. Mr. Mason stated that there are only 145 parking spaces and the square footage
of the building requires 195 spaces. Mr. Mason stated that he wants a traffic study done.
Mr. Noto asked to rebuttal all statements. Mr. Noto responded that 5 Guy's has altered their
business model for this site to make it consistent with Town Code; the peanut oil will be kept
in containers on premises and removed. As to the pedestrian problem it was already there
and the Bagel shop generates more traffic then the restaurant is expected to generate. 5
Guy's would also be part of the community.
Mr. Rosenbaum asked would the plates be disposable or reusable and if 5 Guy's would
supply the weight of refuse for a 2,000 sq. ft. establishment.
Ms. Seligson, Liaison stated that the Town has a truck that runs on vegetable oil.
The matter was adjourned to December 10, 2008.
5. Winged Foot Golf Club, Inc.
Lori Dickson attorney for Winged Foot appeared and addressed the Board. Ms. Dickson
stated that she had sent a letter to the Board asking for waivers.
Mr. Rosenbaum, Chair stated that letters were sent to the involved agencies declaring the
Planning Board Lead agency and are waiting for responses.
Mr. Rosenbaum stated that the matter should be set for a Public Hearing for the December
10, 2008 meeting.
Ms. Paul, Environmental Coordinator stated that the next CZMC meeting is Tuesday
November 28 and they are not meeting in December.
A memo from the Town Engineer was read into the record requesting clarification of the
Easement as the site plan and subdivision plat do not match. Also approval of the
Westchester Joint Water Works and the Westchester County Department of Health is
required prior to the final subdivision plat approval.
David Sessions of Kellard and Sessions Consulting, PC explained that the Easment on the
current site plan is the correct one.
Colin Porter of 183 Griffen Ave. asked what the reason for the easement was and whether it
was to insure a legal building lot. Ms. Dickson stated the lot is 22,500 sq. ft. where 20,00 sq.
ft. are required in a R20 Zone and that the intention was to draw the lot line the same as the
neighboring properties.
The Board discussed the matter and adjourned to December 10, 2008 for a Public Hearing.
John Lage (Car Wash)
On motion of Dr. Mason seconded by Ms. Picciotto the agenda was amended and the Board
voted to open the Public Hearing unanimously.
Benedict Salinitro, Engineer appeared and addressed the Board. Mr. Salinitro stated that
they have been before the Coastal Zone Management Commission and the CZMC has found
the "proposal to be consistent with the policies in the LWRP"
John Avellino and Mr. Salinitro discussed the memo from Dolph Rotfeld Engineering , PC
dated November12, 2008. Mr. Salinitro stated that he would address all concern by the next
meeting.
Pelligrino Orsini, Architect appeared and addressed the Board. Mr. Orsini state that all water
from the canopy will go into downspouts and into dry wells to be contained on the property
The Board discussed the matter and adjourned to December 10, 2008
ADJOURNMENT
On motion duly made the meeting was adjourned 9:57 p.m.
If anyone wishes to review the audio tape of the meeting of November 12, 2008 it will be
available at the Building department, after the certification is signed by the chairman and
filed with the Town Clerk.
Francine M. Brill
Planning Board Secretary