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MINUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE
TOWN OF MAMARONECK, HELD FEBRUARY 14, 1968, IN THE
OFFICE OF THE SUPERVISOR, TOWN OF MAMARONECK OFFICES,
158 WEST BOSTON POST ROAD, MAMARONECK, NEW YORK.
CALL TO ORDER
The Supervisor called the meeting to order at 6 :45 p. m.
pursuant to Notice thereof issued in accordance with
Section 62 of the Town Law.
ROLL CALL
Present: Supervisor Kane
Councilwoman Helwig
Councilman Chalif
Councilman Faiola
Councilman Nagel
Absent; None
Also Present: Mr. Gronberg - Town Clerk
Mr. Johnston - Town Attorney
Mrs. Brewer - Deputy Clerk
Mr. Altieri - Comptroller
ORDER OF BUSINESS
The Board, in agreement with the Supervisor ' s request,
took up Item 2 on the agenda set forth in said Notice,
as the first order of business.
Item 2 - Adoption of Local Law to amend State
Highway Law so as to allow for con-
struction of sidewalks adjoining State
highways.
At the Supervisor ' s request, the Attorney briefed the
Board on the construction of sidewalks adjacent to
County roads and State highways, referring to his Opinion
of February 14, 1968 addressed to Councilwoman Helwig in
reply to her request, and an Opinion he had addressed to
Councilman Chalif on November 8, 1967 with respect to
the Town' s authority to construct such sidewalks.
He pointed out that there were two routes involved in
such authorization - first, if the construction were to
be a General Town charge, by adoption of a local law;
and second, if it were to be a Part Town charge, through
obtaining the required enabling legislation in Albany.
He therefore inquired the Board' s determination thereon.
Councilman Chalif in reply stated that since the walk
would be used by all persons, it seemed to him that it
should be a General Town charge, with which thinking
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the Board concurred. The Attorney thereupon advised that
the adoption of a Local Law was necessary to authorize
this construction; that such adoption was subject to a
public hearing which could be called on three-days notice,
and therefore inquired the Board' s pleasure on the date of
the hearing.
Whereupon, in agreement with Councilman Chalif ' s sugges-
tion that said hearing be held at as early a date as pos-
sible and on his motion, seconded by Councilman Nagel, it
was unanimously
RESOLVED, that a public hearing be held before
this Board as required by law on the adoption
of a Local Law to allow the construction of
sidewalks adjacent to County roads and State
highways within the Town of Mamaroneck, at the
first regular meeting of this Board in March on
Wednesday evening, March 6, 1968, at 8:15 p. m.
in the Council Room of the Weaver Street Fire-
house, Weaver Street, Town of Mamaroneck, and
that the Town Clerk be and he hereby is authoriz-
ed to publish Notice of such hearing in the offi-
cial newspaper of the Town of Mamaroneck, The
Daily Times, as required by law.
In reply to a question by Councilman Faiola as to whether
such Local Law would obtain in construction of sidewalks
along the Boston Post Road in front of the Pancake House,
Larchmont Motel, etc. , the Attorney stated that it would
since it applied to such construction along any County
road or State highway within the Town.
Item 3 - Engaging Real Estate Appraiser to ap-
praise lands to be acquired for construc-
tion of sidewalk along Weaver Street
between Palmer Avenue and the Boston Post Road
Pursuant to the Attorney' s request, Item 3 on the agenda
was then taken under consideration by common consent of
the Board.
The Attorney advised that concurrent action was requested
to obtain necessary appraisals of the lands to be acquir-
ed for the proposed construction and therefore requested
authorization to engage an expert appraiser.
Whereupon, on motion by Councilwoman Helwig, seconded by
Councilman Nagel, it was unanimously
RESOLVED, that the Town Attorney be and he
hereby is authorized to engage the services
of an expert Real Estate Appraiser to appraise
the privately-owned lands necessary to be ac-
quired by the Town for the construction of a
sidewalk along the westerly side of Weaver
Street, a State highway, between Palmer Avenue
and the Boston Post Road.
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Councilman Nagel raised the question of whether it
would be better to engage more than one appraiser,
to which Councilman Chalif replied that since each
appraiser would be different, in his judgment it
would be better to engage the services of only one
with which the Board agreed.
Item 1 - Insurance
The Board then turned its attention to Item 1 on the
Agenda and Councilman Chalif introduced Mr. Sidney E.
Clark, one of the two Registered Insurance Consul-
tants engaged by him pursuant to resolution of this
Board adopted on February 7, 1968, to review the
Insurance bids received pursuant to a Notice for pub-
lic bids for all of the Town ' s insurance needs and
submit a recommendation looking towards award of one
or more contracts for said insurance needs.
The Clerk presented the written report on the review
of bids dated February 12, 1968 as submitted under the
signatures of Messrs. Clark and Joseph F. E. Higgins,
the Consultants,tcgether with a critique of individual
bids, which were ordered received and filed for the
record.
Also presented were two communications addressed to the
Board by Owen A. Mandeville, Jr. of Mandeville Asso-
ciates, Inc. , and Stephen G. Gibbons of Stephen Gibbons,
C. L. U. , which were also herewith ordered received and
filed.
Councilman Chalif stated that in view of the four iden-
tical low bids, it would be necessary to find fine
differences if the Board were to make its award. For
this reason, he pointed out, Mr. Clark was here this
evening to answer questions he knew the Town Attorney
had, along with any the Board might have. Then, if the
Board were satisfied, it was hoped that the award could
be made.
The following questions on the specifications were then
addressed to Mr. Clark by the Attorney, to which he
replied as noted.
1. page 1 - (b) - - "members of the Town Council, Chief
of Police, Chief of Fire Department,
Official Town and Police Surgeon,
members of supervisory and adminis-
trative staff, and other employees
as additional insureds; "
Question - - Does this include members of Boards,
Commissions, etc. ?
-" Answer - - No.
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2. page 2 - (f) - - "Protection and Indemnity Insurance
to the extent indicated elsewhere
in these specifications and extended
to include liability arising out of
the operation of the U. S. Harbor
Workers and Longshoremen Act or the
Jones Act or any other applicable
imposition of liability by Federal
Law; "
Question - - What is the need of this?
Answer - = Not needed - covered by Workmens
Compensation.
3. page 2 - (g) - - "the obligations imposed upon the
named insured by Section 205 and
Section 209 of the Municipal Law
of the State of New York and all -
laws amendatory thereof or supple-
mentary thereto which are or may
become effective during the policy
period. "
Question - - Should these (Section 205 and Sec-
tion 209) not be the Volunteer
Firemens Act since they have been
out of date since 1957?
Answer - - Will have to check - accepted the
specifications as written, simply
checked bids against them - -
after checking, answer was yes.
4. page 2 (first sentence of last paragraph) - -
"A list of all locations owned or-
used by the Town and other gene-
ral liability exposure data is
set forth in Exhibit No. 1. "
Question - - Is this information contained in
Exhibit No. 1?
Answer - - No.
5. page 3 under Note 2nd sentence - - "In bidding this
section alternate quotations as
to limit of liability for the
underlying policy and limit of
indemnity for the excess or
"umbrella" policy are acceptable. "
Question - - Was this done and who did it?
Answer - - No - no one did it.
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6. page 4 - third line from top - "Proposals must include
a statement of the blanket average fire, EC,
VMM and SL rates used to develop the premium
quoted for this insurance. "
Question - - Did the bids comply with this?
Answer - - No.
7. page 4 - last sentence under Note - "A bid on an "All
Risk" basis shall, therefore preclude a bid
under Section F. "
Question - - Shouldn't "F" be "E"?
Answer - - Yes.
Question - - Since I have not seen the bids, I must ask
whether in your opinion, Mr. Clark, anyone
would pick this up?
Answer - - Might - but think it would be taken as a
typing error.
8. page 4-D. (a) - "Employee Dishonesty insurance on a
form at least as broad as the Public Employee
Honesty Blanket Position Bond form providing
a limit of liability of $50, 000. per employee;
Question - - Is a list of the positions needed for above
and was it furnished?
Answer - - It is needed - was not furnished.
9. page 4-D (c) - "Public official bonds as per the sche-
dule attached. "
Question - - Was such schedule attached?
Answer - - No.
10. page 5-E - "Difference-in-Conditions insurance on all
real and personal property at locations des-
cribed in Exhibit No. 2 - Statement of Pro-
perty Values. "
Question - - Were these described as stated?
Answer - - No.
11. page 5-E - 2nd paragraph - "Proposals for this insur-
ance must stipulate the basis for adjusting
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the quoted premium for increase in the total
values at risk due to new construction or
additions at the same or other locations in
the Town. "
Question -- Did they?
Answer -- No, they did not - - none of them.
12. page 6-B - "A proposal for all of the insurance speci-
fied in Section I may be submitted provided
the premium and basis for determining the same
for each form is stated separately. "
Question -- Was this done?
Answer -- No.
13. page 6-C - "Departures, if any, should be clearly
stipulated and the reasons for such devia-
tions noted. "
Question -- Was this done?
Answer -- No.
14. page 6-C - "The proposals also should include pro
forma copies of all policies and endorsements
to be used in providing the insurance and
set forth the rates which will be used to
determine all premiums subject to adjustment
on audit.
Question -- Shouldn' t these premiums be subject to payroll
audit and experience modifications at end of
year?
Answer -- Yes.
15. page 6-D - "Notwithstanding foregoing paragraph "C"
alternate proposals may be presented for con-
sideration provided (1) they are in addition
to proposals which conform to the specifica-
tions and (2) the final premiums thereunder
are not contingent on the volume of incurred
losses. "
Question -- Was this done?
Answer -- No.
The Attorney then asked Mr. Clark what provisions had been
made for cancellation re length of Notice - asking
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whether it would be possible, in his opinion, for the
Town to get 60 days.
Answer - - No - did not think possible - 15 or at most
30 days.
In view of these questions and answers, he then asked Mr.
Clark if he knew how the bidders had come up with the
premiums submitted. Mr. Clark replied that he did not.
Question - Taking into consideration your expertise and
your knowledge of insurance specifications
and your general knowledge of insurance, would
you say these specifications were so drawn
that any one carrier would be preferred as to
others?
Answer - - Uh - no.
Question - Would you so state under oath? No answer.
The four identical low bids and respective brokers sub-
mitting each were then discussed individually at length
and in detail. During this discussion, it was ascertain-
ed that bidders had been supplied with additional infor-
mation as added to the specifications and further that
each had been given any information requested to the best
of the Town' s ability to furnish same. The Attorney also
pointed out that Royal Globe was the proposed carrier on
all four low bids and that the Town' s experience with this
company had been very poor in the past, reciting in detail
--' the specific reasons for his statement.
The urgency of the insurance time-table was also brought
to the Board' s attention since its largest policy expired
at midnight on February 15th, with question as to what the
Town' s position would be if no award were made this even-
ing. In reply, it was pointed out that if no award were
made this evening and the present coverage were to be con-
tinued, it must be renewed during the business day of the
15th.
At this point Councilman Chalif reminded the Board that if
no award were made, the Town would not have certain high-
ly desirable additional coverages afforded under the new
proposal at a very minimal cost, urging in view of this,
that most serious consideration be given to making the
award this evening to one of the four low bidders.
Councilman Nagel asked - "Which one?"
To Jack Coughlin, Councilman Chalif replied, stating that
he would like to speak further as to his reasons for this
recommendation. He then stated that of the four low
bidders Barney Epstein, the present broker who had been
handling the Town' s insurance for some years, certainly
might be subject to question as to his service to the
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Town, particularly during recent years ; that Steve Gibbons,
another of the low bidders, lived in the Village of Larch-
mont, worked in the City of White Plains and was, he had
been given to understand, primarily a Life Insurance man;
and that Dinolfo and Wilson, while reputed to be a very
fine firm, was in the Village of Mamaroneck and City of
White Plains versus the unincorporated area of the Town.
For these reasons, he continued, he favored Jack Coughlin
who both lived and worked in the unincorporated area. He
would prefer, he said in conclusion, with all things be-
-- ing equal to make the award to a local agent — Jack
Coughlin.
Councilman Nagel, with apologies to the Chair, asked to be
excused at this time in order to attend a meeting of the
Joint Economies Study Committee which had been called by
him, and thence left the meeting.
Councilwoman Helwig then said that she would like to be
clear on one thing and asked Councilman Chalif whether
this was a personal recommendation. She added that she
would like to hear the recommendation of Mr. Johnston and
Mr. Altieri, the other two members of the Committee to
which the bids had been referred as she knew both went
over bids most carefully in all instances, sometimes ex-
amining the bidders. Whereas in this instance she stated
that it was her understanding that neither Mr. Johnston
nor Mr. Altieri had had the opportunity to view the bids.
Councilman Chalif advised that he had not been aware of
the necessity to have the Attorney and--Comptroller re-
view the bids along with the experts -- and asked why he
_ had not been so informed.
The Supervisor replied that he of course assumed that the
usual practice, namely for the entire Committee to which
the bids had been referred, to review and examine them
together and then work together with an expert if the need
for same were indicated, was being followed.
Mr. Johnston then reported that he could only recommend
rejection of all bids for the following reasons :
1. That he did not favor Royal Globe as a carrier as he
had previously stated and explained;
2. That there were questions as to the bids ' conformance
with the specifications ;
3. That there was no specific recommendation for award
to any one low bidder made by the two Insurance Ex-
perts engaged to examine all bids and so recommend.
Mr. Altieri then stated that he, too, in agreement with
the Attorney must recommend rejection of all bids since
he had not been given any opportunity to examine them
nor to check them arithmetically, etc.
The discussion was then resumed with many questions ad-
dressed by the members of the Board to both Mr. Clark
and the Town Attorney on matters such as the value and
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importance of the broker ' s service in handling and obtain-
ing the best possible disposition of claims ; the likeli-
hood of being able to obtain coverage at other than excess
premium rates in view of poor experience ratings; whether
Royal Globe would be more acceptable as a carrier if cov-
erage were written by a different broker, etc.
In summarizing, Councilman Chalif stated that the question
before the Board now seemed to be whether all bids should
be accepted or whether they should be rejected, and ac-
cordingly, offered the following motion, which was sec-
onded by Councilman Faiola:
RESOLVED, that all bids be not rejected by
this Board.
The Supervisor requested the Clerk to call the roll there-
on with the vote being as follows :
Councilman Faiola - Aye
Councilman Chalif - Aye
Councilwoman Helwig -
Before casting her ballot, Councilwoman Helwig said that
she did not like to reject all bids at this time since
she would like to have the full recommendations of the
Committee to which the bids had been referred. She said,
however, that at this point she would vote to reject all
of the bids if the five members of the Board were present.
Mr. Altieri then asked whether it would be possible for
the Town to get a 30-day extension of its present policy
and Councilman Chalif answered "yes" - but probably only
at excess cost.
The Supervisor then asked the Attorney whether the Board
could recess until the next day.
"Yes" , replied the Attorney offering to be at the Town
Office all of the next day commencing at 8:00 a.m. so
that the Comptroller and he could question individually
any or all of the bidders as might seem desirable or
necessary upon their examination of the bids.
Councilman Faiola rejected this proposal, and Councilman
Chalif also rejected it since he would not be present un-
til after 5 p.m. on the 15th.
Councilwoman Helwig then asked the Attorney whether it
would be legal to request Councilman Nagel to return to
this meeting and if he could do so, whether it would be
-- legal for him to vote on the motion still on the floor
under roll call.
The Attorney replied in the affirmative and the Deputy
Clerk was directed to call Mr. Nagel requesting his
return, which she did.
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Councilman Nagel returned. The Clerk asked him whether
he wished a review of the discussion which had taken
place during his absence before he recited the motion
now before the Board which was
RESOLVED, that all bids be not rejected by
this Board.
Councilman Nagel replied that he did not and that he was
ready to vote now, whereupon the Clerk resumed calling
the role as follows :
Councilman Nagel - No
for the following reasons which he requested be recorded
in the minutes of this meeting:
1. That none of the bids conformed with the
specifications ;
2. . That the Committee appointed to review the
bids recommended that all bids be rejected
by a vote of 2 to 1;
3. That the Town' s experience with Royal Globe
was so disappointing that in his opinion
coverage should not continue nor be increased.
Councilwoman Helwig — No
Supervisor Kane - No
The resolution was therefore lost by a vote of 3 noes and
two ayes.
The Board then directed that the present coverage be re-
newed at 9 :00 a. m. on February 15th with confirmation
thereof to the Town, and Councilman Chalif recommended
that the present specifications be discarded; that a new
expert be retained to prepare new specifications which
should be put out for bid at as early a date as possible.
The Supervisor then brought up the possibility of the
Town and Villages getting together on the matter of in-
surance coverage, advising that he would immediately
pursue this prospect with the Mayors of the Villages in
the light of the happenings this evening if this met with
the Board' s pleasure which it did and thereupon so directed.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the meeting,
on motion duly made and seconded, it was declared adjourned
— at 9:50 p. m.
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