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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1972_11_01 Town Board Regular Minutes MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF MAMARONECK, HELD NOVEMBER 1st, 1972, IN THE AUDITORIUM OF THE WEAVER STREET FIREHOUSE, WEAVER STREET, TOWN OF MAMARONECK. CALL TO ORDER The Supervisor called the meeting to order at 8:15 p.m. ROLL CALL Present: Supervisor Helwig Councilman Faiola Councilman Vandernoot Councilman Bloom Councilman White Absent: None Also Present: Mr. Gronberg - Town Clerk Mrs. Brewer - Deputy Clerk Mr. Johnston - Town Attorney Mr. Aitchison - Highway Superintendent Mr. Altieri - Comptroller Mr. Doyle - Assessor Mr. Elfreich - Engineer THE SUPERVISOR The Supervisor greeted and welcomed on behalf of the Town the American Field Service exchange students and their hosts, presenting Frank Martin and his host Glen Dabakian and Marco Couchi and his host Buzzy Wine who were here this evening to catch a glimpse of "democracy in action". APPROVAL OF MINUTES The minutes of the regular meeting of October 18th, 1972 were presented and on motion duly made and seconded, approved as submitted. PUBLIC HEARING - Rent Decontrol Unincorporated Section of Town of Mamaroneck On motion by Councilman Vandernoot, seconded by Councilman Bloom, it was unanimously RESOLVED, that the public hearing be and it hereby is declared open. - 1 - The Clerk presented for the record the Affidavit of Publication of the Notice of Hearing together with copies of registered letters and receipts therefor as addressed to the Commissioner and Local Rent Administrator of the State Division of Housing and Community Renewal as required by law, all of which were herewith ordered received and filed. On behalf of the Board, the Supervisor recognized and welcomed Mr. Harold Grosberg, State Local Rent Administrator - White Plains area; Mrs. Barbara Stein, member of Congressman Reid's staff; Cornelius Kelly, member of Assemblyman Pisani's staff; Hon. Leo Goldsmith, Jr. , Mayor, and Mrs. Eileen Gallagher Harrington, Trustee, Village of Larchmont; and Dr. Otty Norwood, Superintendent of the Mamaroneck Schools. Mrs. Helwig then outlined the procedure for the hearing, stat- ing first those in favor would be heard -- then those in op- position. She asked those who were to speak to come to the mike and identify themselves to the Court Stenographer for purposes of the record, adding that they would be called from the cards circulated before the opening of the meeting with the request that anyone who wished to be heard give his or her name and address and indicate whether he or she wished to speak in favor or in opposition. These cards, she explained, had been distributed so that the Board would be able to hear as many of those desiring to speak as possible in this very large gather- ing. The Supervisor also stated for the information of all present that the Board would make no decision in this matter this even- ing and thereupon called on Councilman Vandernoot who, she said, had been working diligently on the study of this matter for many months. --- Councilman Vandernoot presented the following statement on behalf of the Board which was ordered received and filed as part of the record: "The Town Board has invited you here tonight in order that you may convey to us any valid facts relating to rent control that would aid us in making a decision on the wisdom and fairness of either continuing our present vacancy decontrol or removing controls entirely. Our decision of course would affect only the Apartments in the Unincorporated Area. We are aware of the fact that there are some senior citizens living on fixed incomes who would be hurt. We also know that many tenants living in controlled apartments can well afford to pay the market rate. The Board will not reach a decision tonight but will add any information received to our present file and also welcome hearing from anyone who for one reason or another could not attend this meeting." Councilman Faiola then addressed the Chair suggesting that in view of the extremely large number of residents present, that a time limit be established so each speaker would have an equal amount of time and so that, if possible, all who wished to address the Board would be afforded the opportunity to do SO. In reply to Mrs. Helwig's query as what limit he would - 2 - SCHEDULE II TOWN OF MAMARONECK 'COMPUTATION OF HOLIDAY COMPENSATION 1972 NAME TITLE ANNUAL UNIT BASIS AUG/DEC SALARY PER DAY SIX DAYS TOTAL DAYS AMOUNT AMOUNT R. Barasch Chief $16,860. $64.85 6 $389.10 $389.10 C. Loveley Lieutenant 14,600. 56.15 6 336.90 336.90 D. McClintock Sergeant 12,185. 46.86 6 281.16 281.16 F. Silvestri Sergeant 12,185 46.86 6 281.16 281.16 W. Federice Cont. Perm Lieutenant 14,300. 55.00 6 330.00 330.00 G. Mulcahy Detective 11,600. 44.61 6 267.66 267.66 N. Giacomo Patrolman 11,085. 42.63 6 255.78 255.78 A. Lifrieri Patrolman 11,085. 42.63 6 255.78 255.78 W. O'Rorke Sergeant 12,185. 46.86 6 281.16 281.16 W. Costello Patrolman 11,085. 42.63 6 255.78 255.78 P. Diamond Sergeant 12,185. 46.86 6 281.16 281.16 R. Perritano Det. Sgt. 12,700. 48.84 6 293.04 293.04 A. Ambrosovitch Patrolman 11,085. 42.63 6 255.78 255.78 A. Leviness Patrolman 11,085. 42.63 6 255.78 255.78 T. Vitro Sergeant 12,185. 46.86 6 281.16 281.16 F. DeVico Detective 11,600. 44.61 6 267.66 267.66 W. Coy Patrolman 11,085. 42.63 6 255.78 255.78 V. Garrison Patrolman 11,085. 42.63 6 255.78 255.78 C. Baumblatt Patrolman 11,085. 42.63 6 255.78 255.78 R. Fuller Patrolman 11,085. 42.63 6 255.78 255.78 P. Adamo Patrolman 11,085. 42.63 6 255.78 255.78 T. Mahoney Detective 11,600. 44.61 1 44.61 Det. Sgt. (9/7/72) 12,700. 48.84 5 244.20 288.81 J. Greenstein Patrolman 11,085. 42.63 1 42.63 Sergeant (9/7/72) 12,185. 46.86 5 234.30 276.93 J. Anderson Patrolman 11,085. 42.63 6 255.78 255.78 R. Hutcheon Patrolman 10,782. 41.46 2 82.92 Patrolman (11/2/72) 11,085. 42.63 4 170.52 253.44 C. Catapano Patrolman 10,782. 41.46 5 207.30 Patrolman (12/14/72) 11,085 42.63 1 42.63 249.93 P. Gerardi Patrolman 10,782. 41.46 6 248.76 248.76 SCHEDULE II (continued) L. Mosiello Patrolman 10,479. 40.30 5 201.50 Patrolman (12/14/72) 10,782. 41.46 1 41.46 242.96 A. Gerace Patrolman 10,479. 40.30 6 241.80 241.80 R. Knox Patrolman 10,479. 40.30 6 241.80 24L80 J. Passafume Patrolman 10,176. 39.13 2 78.26 Patrolman (10/19/72) 10,479. 40.30 4 161.20 239.46 M. Nardelli. Patrolman 10,176. 39.13 2 78.26 Patrolman (10/19/72) 10,479. 40.30 4 161.20 239.46 P. Munch Patrolman 10,176. 39.13 6 234.78 234.78 J. Thompson Patrolman 10,176. 39.13 6 234.78 234.78 J. Pyrch Patrolman 9,873. 37.97 6 227.82 227.82 M. Graziano Patrolman 9,873. 37.97 6 227.82 227.82 G. Carden Patrolman 9,873. 37.97 6 227.82 227.82 $9,780.11 HOLIDAYS Labor Day Columbus Day Election Day Veterans Day Thanksgiving Christmas TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF MAMARONECK - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - x In the Matter of the Public Hearing for the purpose of considering rent decontrol in the Unincorporated Section of the Town of Mamaroneck only. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - x Weaver Street Firehouse Weaver Street and Edgewood Avenue , Mamaroneck, New York. November 1, 1972 8: 15 P.M. A P P E A R A N C E S MRS. CHRIST= K. HELWIG, .Supervisor RAYMOND Po FAIOLA, Town Councilman JOSEPH F . VA.NDERNOOT, Town Councilman LEE H. BLOOM, Town Councilman THOMAS E. WHITE, Town Councilman CHARLES Jo GRONBERG, Town Clerk LAVENIE BREWER, Deputy Clerk. Allan S. Bergman Hearing Reporter 2 MRS. HELWIG: The meeting is called to order. The first order of business is approval of the minutes of the October 18th meeting. Is there a motion? MR. VANDERNOOT: Moved. MRS. HELWIG: Do I hear seconds? MR. BLOOM: Seconded. MRS. HELWIG: All those in favor? ALL: "Aye® " MS. HELWIG: Opposed? (No response) P'2 S. HELWIG: So ordered. Is there a motion to call the public hearing to order? MR, VANDERNOOT: So moved. MRS. HELWIG: Do I hear a second? MR. BLOOM: Seconded. MRS. HELWIG: All those in favor? ALL: "Aye® " MRS. HELWIG: Opposed? (No response) MRS® HELWIG: So ordered. The Board has unanimously voted to open the hearing. Mr. Bromberg, would you read the publication of the notice. MR. GRONBERG. I think maybe I can get this audience to hear me. The affidavit of publication was to call this public hearing tonight, and also two letters which are required by law to be sent to the Divi- sion of Housing and Community Renewal both in White Plains and in Albany. They have both been acknowledged by receipt of the letters. MRS. HEIWIG: Thank you, Mr. Gronberg. I would like to explain the procedure that we are going to follow so that everybody understands . We have to ask everybody to file cards , not to limit the discussion, but simply to make sure that we can enable everyone to be heard who wishes to be heard and to give us facts and information. We ask you, please, to come forward as your name is called to the microphone , identify yourself, give your address. This is because we have a court stenographer taking the record of the proceedings so that we will have all of 4 the information presented. If you have a written statement or a petition, please hand it to Mr. Gronberg, our Town Clerk. If you do have a written statement , it will be filed as a part of the record and it need not be read. Although, if you wish to summarize the information that you are giving, we will all be appreci- ative , because that will give more people an opportunity to be heard, but all of the information that you give us will be made part of the record. We would ask each of you to limit his remarks. We haven' t set any time limit, but we may have to as the evening goes along. The Town Clerk has already filed 2 petitions and 17 letters that have been received in the Town Hall as a part of the hearing record. Before we begin, I would like to recognize the presence of Mr. Harold Grossberg of the State Division of Housing and Community renewal, Local Rent Administrator from White Plains , and of iLs . Barbara Stein of Congressman 5 Reid' s office , and of Mr. Cornelius Kelly of Assemblyman Celenese ' s office . I would also like to recognize the presence of the Mayor of Larchmont, and I believe of Trustee Harrington of the Village , who are going to be conducting a similar hearing in another week or two. Oh, yes, I' d like to recognize the presence of Dr. Norwood in the rear. Making a preliminary statement for the Town Board, I'd like to recognize Councilman Joseph Danderman. MR. DANDERM9N: Good evening, friends and neighbors . The Town Board has invited you here tonight in order that you may convey to us any valid facts relating to rent control that would aid us in making a decision on the wisdom and fairness of either continuing our present vacancy decontrol or removing controls entirely. Our decision, of course, would only affect apartments in the unincorporated area. We are aware of the fact that there are some senior citizens living on fixed incomes who 6 would be hurt . We also know that many tenants living in controlled apartments can well afford to pay the market rate . The Board will not reach a decision tonight , but will add any information received to our present file and also welcome hearing from anyone who for one reason or another could not attend this meeting. MRS. HELWIG: Mr. Faiola wants to move that we set a time limit on speakers at this point. Mr. Faiola, what are you suggest- ing? MR, FAIOLA: Madam Supervisor, in view of the requests that we have here and we do have an awful lot of people that want to be heard, I think that we can begin with setting a time limit of two minutes , and if they want to continue on after everyone has been heard, then they can continue to speak. This would be just to give everyone a chance to be heard. Otherwise , we ' ll be here to six o ' clock in the morning, and I just don' t 7 think it would be fair. I move that we set a time limit at this time for two minutes . KRS. HELWIG: Do I hear a second? MR. VANDERNOOT: Second. MRS. HELWIG: All those in favor? ALL: "Aye. " MRS. HELWIG: Opposed? (No response) MRS. HELWIG: So ordered. We will begin then with a time limit of two minutes for speakers. Now, Mr. Montezinos has asked to address us on a matter of procedure. We hope that this is not going to be time consuming, because we want to hear information on the rent control. Would you take the microphone? MR. MONTEZINOS: Mine is not a state- ment, rather a question of procedure. MRS. HELWIG: Has it not beensatisfied and answered by the statement? MR. MONTEZINOS: My question was, are you going to -- you 're not going to hand down a decision tonight, you said? 10 value. This decline has been reflected in lowered assessed valuations . These reduced assessed valuations have come about after tax review (certiorari) proceedings in the Supreme Court or because of the assessor ' s acknowledgement of such a decline in value. As a result of these reductions in assessed values , the school board has been compelled to refund taxes previously paid. In order to compensate for the refunds and the prospective tax losses from the properties thus reduced, the Board must increase the school tax rate on other properties in the district . Such increases mean an additional burden not only on private home owners but , indirectly, through their rents , on the tenants of non-controlled apartments . Certiorari proceedings and loss of potential tax revenues as a result of rent control constitute a minor part of the district ' s budget problem. We would suggest a vigorous campaign to increase the tax base through commercial development of appropriate 11 properties . The Board of Education does not have information at this time regarding the affect of rent control on low income families and senior citizens living on fixed incomes . We are planning, however, to take active measures to press for state legislation regarding tax relief for elderly and low income people, both property owners and renters , and will work for the passage of such legislation in the coming session of the State Legislature . We believe the Town Council should be aware of the School Board' s concern in this matter when it considers the pros and cons of rent decontrol. MRS. HELWIG. Thank you, hers . Topol. We realize that feelings do run high on this subject , but we would ask everybody in the audience to listen courteously to every state- ment, if you please . Mrs . Snyder had asked to make a state- ment in behalf of the League of Women Voters. Since we do have it here as a printed statement, 12 do you still wish to present this? MRS. SNYDER: I' d like to. MS. HELWIG: Go ahead. MRS. SNYDER: The League of Women Voters has been working for some years to insure adequate housing for all Americans. Locally, we are concerned, as are all those present here tonight , with the question of rent decontrol and all of its ramifications . We are aware that during the past several years assessments of some apartment dwellings have been reduced with the subsequent substantial loss in tax revenue to both the town and the school district, and we agree that landlords are entitled to a fair return on their investment . With this as a background, we would like to pose several questions to you: Before filing certiorari proceedings to have their taxes reduced, how many landlords applied to the County Rent Control Authority for the rent increase to which they have been entitled? If rent controls are removed, will 13 landlords still have the right to file certiorari proceedings? How many units are now rent controlled, and how are these distributed among the apartment buildings in the town? We are told that rent control has lead to property deterioration, but would the mere lifting of rent controls prevent further deterioration? Is not an affectively admini- stered property maintenance code of primary importance in enduring adequate maintenance? Have the human values been considered? How many tenants in rent controlled apartments would be forced to leave the community? How many are senior citizens? How many are local town or village employees who could no longer live here? Anal, finally, have you investigated the availability of state or federal rent subsidies as an alternative to eviction to those eligible under the appropriate guild- lines? We urge the Town Council to seriously 14 evaluate all aspects of proper housing within the framework of present laws , with due consideration to the financial capabilities of both tenant and landlord. MRS. HELWIG: Thank you, Mrs. Snyder. This is exactly what we are trying to do. We will call, speaking in favor of decontrol, Mr. George Mills , Jr. MR. MILLS: I would like to say tonight that as a property owner, I can see the increase in my taxes up there on Fenimore Road every year, and the school district is one that ' s taking the beating on this rent control. Now, I know that there ' s two sides to the story, and Mrs. Topol covered the thing very well. And all I'm going to say right now, is there anything that anybody in this audience can tell me? I pay the same for back in 1945. Can anybody tell me something? All right, Miss, back there . A VOICE: I' m Gloria Shaw, S-h-a-w -- ITS. HELWIG: This is out of order. HR. MILLS: That ' s all I have to say. 15 Thank you for listening. NLRS, HELWIG: Mr. Walter A. Lowman of 8 Woodie Lane. MR. LOWMAN- Good evening. I have a lot of empathy for the people I see here tonight, for my mother who is elderly, for my father who is deceased. I lived in Stuyvesant Town, New York City, which is also a form of controlled_ apartments in New York City. Currently I am a real estate property owner and have a house here in Larchmont. I have lived here six years . I couldn't resist the opportunity to speak in favor of rent decontrol here tonight , because I think that this group here tonight is entirely unrepre- sentative of this community. We have a hot issue here tonight, just like everything else in this world. When it affects our pocketbook, we turn out. I think the main reason I asked to speak in favor of rent decontrol is because I do not think there is enough people here to 16 represent that side ® Thank you® MRS. HELWIG: Thank you, Mr. Lowman. Mr. Axelrod. MR. A=LROD: Mrs. Helwig, I'm really speaking for a number of people in different categories , apartment owners , home owners , owners of commercial property and shopkeepers . In view of the fact that they have relinquished their time, I wonder if I might have more additional time , since I prepared a statements I think all of them would be germane . MRS. HELWIG: Mr, Axelrod has asked for four minutes, because he ' s representing a number of people. Four minutes, Mr. Axelrod. PM. A=LROD: Rent control is really a question of either rents or taxes going to go up, because it ' s the only way we ' re going to maintain our budget and meet the requirements of our budget . Rent control, by keeping down income from rents while operating costs were permitted 1'7 to rise unchecked, has reduced the value of rent controlled apartment houses . As a result , owners are increasingly seeking relief by way of reductions in assessed valuations to reflect the reduced values of their properties as prescribed by law. Reductions in assessed valuations in affect to far for the town alone amount to $629, 100. There are further writs pending in the town for reductions totaling $1, 924,000. As to the reductions already in affect , the current loss in tax revenues is $77, 165 each year, and this figure will increase if and as the tax rate goes up. If the pending writs are fully successful, it will mean refunds in cash of approximately $250,000 and an additional recurring loss of over $90,000 in tax revenues each year; this figure will also increase if and as the tax rate goes up. It seems clear the town can look forward to a loss in tax revenues running into six figures each year as a direct result of rent controls . These losses in tax revenue each year 18 are compensated for by increasing the tax rates. As a result , each taxpayer is paying more in taxes and is thereby helping subsi- dize tenants in rent controlled apartments. As apartment house owners become more alert to this form of relief, further reductions in assessed valuation may be sought resulting in still further reductions in tax revenues and additional increases in tax rates to offset such reductions. If controls remain in effect, the value of the property will decline still further and owners whose assessed valuations have been reduced may very likely come in for further justifiable relief. Removal of rent control would allow these properties to find their true values and restore or increase tax revenues . There are 2,260 single family dwellings in the town. Each home owner is paying more in taxes to make up the loss in tax revenue occasioned by rent control. The same is true for owners of commercial and other types of property. It is also true for storekeepers 19 and decontrolled tenants, whether their leases contain tax excalation clauses or not; they all are now paying or will be paying higher rents to help subsidize rent controlled tenants. The very large majority of rent controlled tenants can afford_ to pay fair market rentals , but are enjoying a "free ride" ; many can actually afford to pay a good deal more than fair market value. A very small percentage may rot be able to. If any tenants are to be subsidized, it should be those who have both the need and the right to such help® In the event of decontrol, the largest increases would and should come from tenants who have paid little or no voluntary increases and are paying the lowest rents. The apartments have been carried at substantial losses over a period of many years ® Their occupants have been subsidized in some cases to the amount of $10,000 or more , per apartment, over the Years of rent control® The law provides that in effecting 20 decontrol, each controlled tenant must first be offered a lease for not less than two years, with an increase of not more than 15% the first year, and 5% the second years During this two-year period, such tenants could make other arrangements if they so desired® Also, the community could decide what further or other steps, if any, it wished to take . At the end of the two-year period, the federal rent freeze with its control on rents would automatically take effect. Discussions with members of different segments of the community would seem to indicate the feeling is that it is in the best interests of the community and of the overwhelming majority of its residents that rent control of apartments be ended promptly® MRS. HELWIG: Since this is a written statement and you've had four minutes, may we have the statement , and thank you very much. Mr. Howard .Schwartz, of i5 Villa Lane MR. SCHWARTZ: Madam Supervisor and 21 Members of the Council, I am here as the Chairman of the Committee on Tax Base appointed by the Mamaroneck Board of Education. Our client was charged with the responsibility of exploring every possible avenue of spending the tax base available to the school for its physical purposes, and also for exploring every opportunity to prevent the slippage of that tax base. Our committee had unanimously recommended to the Board of Education and on the basis of the statistics available to us and the evidence that we were able to gather, that we recommended to the Board of Education actually favoring the adoption of a proposal tonight. The Board has not acted on our recommendation, but our Committee felt that it was necessary and appropriate for the members of the Council to note that the Tax Base Committee feels this way. Our reasoning, and I will reduce it to just one statistic -- the figures available 22 to us indicated that in the year 1967 the apartment houses in the Town of Mamaroneck had a gross assessed valuation of $*15, 900,000 . In 1972, those same apartment houses had a total gross assessed valuation of $14, 600,000, which meant that the total assessment of the apartments and admittedly both rent controlled and non-rent controlled dropped by approximately $1, 300,000. That drop in assessment alone required the school board to increase the school tax rate by 550 per thousand, and that , of course , had to be spread around the entire community. Our committee felt that so long as rent control plays any part in creating this decline in assessed valuation, then we had to take the position that we favored the proposal for the Council tonight in order that the school taxes not only not be increased, but that they be borne equally by all members of the community. Thank you. MRS. HETMIG: Thank you. 23 firs . Joan Porrazzo of Larchmont Acres . MRS. PORRAZZO ; I don't want to make any enemies with the acres. I am in favor- of decontrol only because continually my rent is going up . In the past five years or six years that I've lived there, my rent has doubled from $138 in 1966 to $262 a month. My sympathy goes out to the people who have lived there for many years and who are under rent control, but , on the other hand, do you realize every time something is done at the acres -- I don't know about other apartment buildings . Your rent also goes up. With oil expenses, maintenance expenses , and the only way we can keep as a body is to decontrol the apartments , because we can't fight decontrol. We can't fight the manage- ment and go to decontrolled people and ask them to back us up, because we are single . I am strongly in favor of decontrol. MRS. HELWIG: ThaDk you, Mrs. Porrazzo® 24 Owen A. Mandeville, Jr. , 60 Ocean Avenue . MR. MANDEVILLE: First of all, I' d like to thank the Town for calling the public meeting. I think it ' s very important that we air the problems between the rent control units , the decontrol units and myself representing ownership of some of the buildings . Not to bore you with facts , and I hope to submit a written brief to the Town Board by the end of the week, I've prepared a little lengthy statement which I' ll deviate from. I'd like to end it with what I think might be a way to solve both situations. At Chadvrick Gardens , Unit A, one of the buildings we happen to own, expenses since 1968 have risen from 851/o of the gross income to approximately 112% by the end of this year. That means that we 're operating in a cash loss , which includes or does not exclude depreciation. Next year that loss will approximate 117% of the gross income I have the facts and the figures which 25 I Will submit to the Town. There is a way out, and I would like to shorten my talk by reading a statement which I think some of the landlords will go along with. We ' ve seen in these figures these problems arise in other municipalities, and in those municipalities the landlords and the tenants have decided to work together on voluntary guidelines. I use the word "voluntary" , unless it works, the Town or the Municipality would put back rent control. Ln other words, they took it off with the understanding that under certain guidelines rent increases would be granted. The land- lords and the tenants formed a working committee , and they met once a month. We had this happen in Yonkers and in New Rochelle® Under those systems, the rents Were allowed to ease up , the financial burden was eased with the tenants in totally decontrolled spaces , and the landlord was obligated to follow the municipal codes in keeping his building up to date . 26 I ' m very happy to say most landlords have exceeded the law in doing so. It is our sincere hope and belief that the Town must act now and that this action can be undertaken with the cooperation of landlords and tenants forming a committee to review the rental increases and act upon any increases that may arise from same . Our thoughts will remain under the control of the Building Inspector and that department of the Town of Mamaroneck, with one added provision, that the codes be strictly enforced and that the Building Inspector would have the right to convene this committee to en list support in correcting any greivances. That ' s, in essence, what I would like to present , except that I would like to go one step further. I' ve talked to a number of the landlords. I would like to propose that we act on an 8% increase per year for a period of time , and then reconvene a committee before a group like this tonight. 27 MRS. HELWIG: Thank you. I would like to make a statement at this time that we are very willing to accept additional information, additional statements for a period of time after this hearing. If anything is not said or if anybody wishes to submit a statement in contravention of what has been said, we ' re most willing to have that information. The newt speaker is Mr. Kaplan® A VOICE: Mr. Kaplan has withdrawn. MRS. HELWIG: Mr. Sam Chudick. P2. CHUDICK: I' d like to say that the landlord' s position is quite obvious , MRS, HELWIG: Thank you. Mr. Kim, of Larchmont Acres. MR= KIM: Good evening, Mrs . Helwig and ladies. My name is Yuk-Kuk Kim, I' m a tenant at Larchmont Acres , Building 8® I don' t know whether Building 8 is covered on tonight ' s discussion or not. MRS. HELWIG: Mr. Kim, part of the Building 8 in Larchmont Acres , as you know, 28 is in the Village of Mamaroneck. We have only the power to deal in the buildings in the unincorporated area of the town. Any decision this Board would make would not affect either village . I think we would like to hear your statement. - HR. KIM. The statement I would like to make tonight deals with a half an hour ' s survey I did in my side of the building before I came to the meeting, only because I found out about this in the paper Monday night, and I didn't feel like going out on the last night among the Halloween crowd. So, I had only a half an hour this afternoon. The facts I surveyed among the 24 dwelling units that are on our side of Building 8, I knocked on every door, and I had responses from 10 dwelling units -- I beg your pardon, there were 14 dwelling units. Ten were out. So, among the 14 dwelling units i surveyed personally, I figured out how many people lived in the apartment buildings it turns out 29 that only 5 families out of the 14 lived in the Larchmont rcres , that part of the building, for over one year. Therefore, assuming that this particular building is typical of the turnover that ' s taking place in Larchmont Acres as a whole, and I have no reason at this time to assume that building 8 in particular has a larger turnover- than any other building in the complex, the contention that the assessed value of the apartments are decreasing because the decontrolled process by vacancy is not taking place rapidly enough, because an overwhelming majority of the people are tenants. Secondly, that I also found out that many people are not aware whether or not their apartments are under rent control or not. So, therefore , there is a lack of dissemination of information on the -oast of the landlords to inform the tenants whether they are under rent control or rota That among those people who had been living for a long term period, I found many elderly people and widows, as well j� as persons like myself, who has a good job and who perhaps could afford to take it or, if they don' t like, to move to another community. MRS. HELWIG: Mr. Kim, it is time. Iiay we have those figures and the information you brought? We would appreciate it very much. FIR. KIM: I feel at this time that the survey is incomplete , inasmuch as I hadn't had a chance to cover the other buildings. However, if you would like to take this information at face value, I' ll be perfectly willing to leave this copy with you. MRS. HELWIG; It will be helpful. We have an information that has been gathered over the period of time that we ' ve been studying this matter over the other apartments that have been under rent control as 891. This is in the unincorporated area. There are still 898 that remains under rent control as of today. We have a Mrs . Can avaro of 17 North 31 Chad.sworth Avenue . MRS. CANNAVARO: I feel that land- lords are entitled to a rent increase, but I feel that this increase should be definitely limited. My apartment has been decontrolled because I moved into a vacant apartment . Two years later I was raised 3331® This year I was invited to pay another 20% and I feel that people living in a comparable apartment should have an increase, because it isn' t fair to have somebody living in an apartment at $55 when somebody else is living in the same apartment for $250, But I don't think the increase should be unbearable . In other i=ds, how far can you go? You get an 8% increase this year, and the next year and then the next year until you' re paying $500 a month. They say pay it or move , and where do you move to? MRS. HELWIG; Thank you, Mrs ® Cannavarom These are the cards that had asked to speak in favor of decontrol" I don' t believe there are any others , though we have some 34 construction job . I feel that by lifting this rent control, we 're being thrown to the wolves . I have some friends in New York City that came to harchmont about 8 years ago with unlimited funds behind them. They went to 6 landlords in my immediate area, offered them a fair market price . They each refused to sell. I' d like to ask these landlords, that if this is such an unprofitable business , why do they refuse to sell? Hoer they can mortgage their properties , a first ; a second, a third mortgage , take that money and let us pay off the mortgages from our rents, and go by another property. When the leases are signed, that paper is like gold. They go to the bank and start all over. Why don't they sell? If it ' s so unprofitable, '_now can they afford to purchase in the first place? Not the first one. I'm talking about the second_ one, and in some cases 25 to 30 properties in this county. 35 I am desperately concerned that if this Board lifts this rent control, what will happen to the senior citizens? I" d like to know if there are any funds from any source available right now, should they lift controls, to help these people pay the rents . In many cases it would be a must , and in many more cases, not just senior citizens. We middle-class families are trying to have at least $2 left over at the end of the month. We may have to go on Welfare . I can`t see that they can get it . MRS. HELWIG: Thank you, Mr. Alton. The Board has been investigating whatever laws, either federal or state , are available for assistance of this sort, and I would say that all of our state officials ; Mr. Grossberg and Mrs. Stein from Congressman Reid' s office , have been doing a ,great deal to assist us in this. Thank you. Now, Mrs. Thomas Tanask_i of 3 Dillon Road. Mrs . Tana.ski is speaking for a group of residents. We ' ll also extend to her the 41 Is that condition any better now? Are there more apartments to go? I understand there are less, but I don' t have the facts. Then another thing is that the government said they should have a fair_ profit , the landlord. I think he should have a fair profit on his investment , but the government permits that® It was 6%. Maybe it ought to be more . I don't think - the older citizens object to having a rent increase , but what ' s he going to do at the end of two years? That ' s what scares the wits out of him. At the end of two years, they can charge you 100, $200 more . Why couldn' t it be 159 8, 5 or $10? Why can 't they give you the proper increase? MR.S. HELWIG: Mrs. Thomas Quarino, 11 Altan Road® MRS. QUARINO : Good evening. I'm not in favor of decontrol for the simple reason that I am decontrolled, and I get nothing from the landlord, except distress. As the lady said before me, if you want 35 I am desperately concerned that if this Board lifts this rent control, what will happen to the senior citizens? I' d like to know if there are any funds from any source available 'right now, should they lift controls, to help these people pay the rents . In many cases it would be a must , and in many more cases, not just senior citizens. We middle-class families are trying to have at least $2 left over at the end of the month. We may have to go on Welfare . I can't see that they can get it . MRS. HELWIG. Thank you, Mr. Alton. The Board has been investigating whatever laws, either federal or state , are available for assistance of this sort , and I would say that all of our state officials, Mr. Grossberg and Mrs. Stein from Congressman Reid' s office , have been doing a ,great deal to assist us in this. Thank you. New, Mrs. Thomas Tanaski of 3 Dillon Road. Mrs . Tana.ski is speaking for a group of residents. We ' ll also extend to her the 36 courtesy that we extended to Mr® Axelrod® MRS. TANASKI: The first think I would like to read is for the people that are on control. With the possibility of the removal of rent control, we wish to bring to your attention a few details concerning those rentees that would be affected by the change in this ruling. There are 33 families in this building, of which 12 tenants are on control. The majority of tenants off control are widows, senior citizens and young couples with children trying to keep their heads above water. The oldest senior citizen has resided here since 1940, and many others came a. few years later and have remained ever since ® What about our present and very near future ser_ior citizens and those of us on fixed incomes? Are we to become wards of the state? Present economy has provided less and less good jobs even for the young families who are now paying excessive rents for terrible living 37 conditions . Has Mr. Vandernoot made a survey as to how many tenants are on control and hour many are off? What was the hike range of rents from 1964 when the Council voted for decontrol? Nobody cared then, will someone care now? During the 32-year period that many of these tenants have resided here at the Avonmore Apartments, they have been maintaining -- their own individual apartments. This includes paint and painting, carpentry, et cetera. We sincerely hope the landlord fully realizes the amount of moneys and costs of labor saved by him through our efforts during these past years. However, we submit the landlord has not yet pressured the 12 tenants on control for any increase, and the 12 tenants have never requested reimbursement for supplies and cost of labor in maintaining our apartments. We hope the Board will appreciate our situation and arrive at a favorable and consid- erate discussion concerning our problem. We 38 would hate to think of having to move to a lower income area which would be inevitable with the landlord given a free hands Are there any alternatives the Board could initiate for our present and future protection? The next is from the people that are off control. When a tenant moves into these decontrolled apartments, he must supply his own paint and plaster to plug up holes in walls and ceilings. They must scrape their own floors, many of which consist of rotting wood. The floor surfaces in the kitchen and bathrooms are greatly distressed and many incur the expense of materials and labor for this. Among the tenants living in the apartment, many are older widows, senior citizens and about 10 school age children. During the coldest part of the winter, the heating system breaks down and we have no heat from 12 to 24 hours. This summer the hot water was an on and off situation® During the summer, because 41 Is that condition any better nova? Are there more apartments to go? I understand there are less, but I don't have the facts. Then another thing is that the government said they should have a fair profit , the landlord. I think he should have a fair profit on his investment , but the government permits that. It was 6%. Maybe it ought to be more. I don't think the older citizens object to having a rent increase , but what ' s he going to do a- the end of two years? That ' s what scares the wits out of him. At the end of two years, they can charge you 100, $200 more . Why couldn' t it be 15, 8, 5 or $10? Why can't they give you the proper increase? MRS. =LWIG: Mrs. Thomas Quarino, 11 Altan Road. MRS. QUARINO : Good evening. I'm not in favor of decontrol for the simple - reason that I am decontrolled, and I get nothing from the landlord, except distress. As the lady said before me, if you want 42 anything done , you do it yourself or forget about it . You have leaking faucets, as the lady said, in the Avon House , which is one of our better apartments in town, which is infested with mice , rats, holes . Anything you want, they got it . They get away with it. This man wants this thing to be decontrolled. Forget it. I' ll fight them every inch of the way. MRS. HELWIG: Thank you, Mrs . Quarino. We have firs. Dorothy Alton. Do you want to add something? MRS. ALTON: Like most women, I have a great deal to say, but may I give my two minutes to someone . I would like to give my two minutes to Dr. Heidi, who is a very good spokesman. MRS. HELWIG: Dr. Heidi, please. Dr. Heidi requested to be recognized between 9 and 9 : 30 , so that we ' re making it. DR. HEIDI- Good evening, everyone . 43 I prepared a statement, and I° 11 read it very quickly. I spent a lot of time writing this and thinking it out . Any conclusions arrived at by this Council must be fair to all concerned. It must accomplish its purpose only after detailed investigation. I have no doubt that our Council is capable , but I caution them to garner all the facts before decision making. Let us examine what happens should a landlord raise the rents in his building $100,000 a year. If this appears extreme , in a 100 unit duelling, half controlled, rent raised $150 per month per apartment equals $7500 monthly or $90,000 every year. His building immediately increases in value at least at times that or $800 ,000. The town which assesses on a 451/o basis can then tax an additional $360,000 . The town tax rate is $122 a thousand, so the town collects additional taxes of $43, 920, but the town regains only 25% or $10, 980. The schools 49 economically trying to get by on what you get every day. Can' t he help along for the time being? There ' s many a way he can do it . Actually, he doesn't take care of your apartment . You keep it in shape all the time . A chain is as strong as its weakest link. So, keep fighting for this subject that we 're talking about here tonight® MRS. HELWIG. Thank you, Mr. Jordan. Mr. Kaplan, I think that you wanted to speak in opposition of the continuance of control. I would like to continue as we 're going with those who want to express opposition to decontrol. I' ll call you later. Mrs . Sadie Connelly of Larchmont Acres . MRS, CONVELLY: I would like to tell you what can happen_. MRS. HELWIG: Would you please come forward to the microphone. MRS CONNELLY: in two jumps my rent was increased from $145 to $210 a month. MRS, HELWIG; You are not under control, I take it? 43 I prepared a statement, and I' ll read it very quickly. I spent a lot of time writing this and thinking it out . Any conclusions arrived at by this Council must be fair to all concerned. it must accomplish its purpose only after detailed investigation. I have no doubt that our Council is capable , but I caution them to garner all the facts before decision making. Let us examine what happens should a landlord raise the rents in his building $100,000 a year. If this appears extreme , in a 100 unit dwelling, half controlled, rent raised $150 per month per apartment equals $7500 monthly or $90,000 every year. His building immediately increases in value at least at times that or $8001000. The town which assesses on a 45% basis can then tax an additional $360,000 . The town tax rate is $122 a thousand, so the town collects additional taxes of $43, 920, but the town regains only 25% or $10, 980. The schools 44 get 55% of that or $24, 156, and the remaining 20% pis not used locally, about $8,784® Therefore , the tenants pay $100,000 more in rents , from which the town gets a little less than $11,000 and the school gets $24,000. But what happens to the remainder? Well, without any further effort, the landlord gets $56,080 a year in increased profits and here ' s the ticker. His building is automati- cally worth $800,000 more. So, who really benefits most? Is this a sufficient means of raising revenue for the town? I would not like to be in the position of this Town Council who, should they ctcontrol, find they are benefiting the town less and the landlords more, and this would be at the expense of the tenants , who they represent, who voted them into office, and who vote again for Council next November. This is a windfall profit for the landlord at the tenant ' s expense. The town derives limited benefit® Now, 45 our Council are honorable and able . Their decision must not even imply that they represent special interests. I now ask the Town Council whether they have in their possession tonight for public view and discussion all the facts , not just hearsay or talk, but mainly, number one , a current list of all expenses needed to maintain each multiple dwelling. Two, a current list of each apartment rental and whether controlled or decontrolled. Three , the number of inhabitants in each controlled apartment and the age of each. Four, a list of multiple dwellings whose ownership has changed since 1960, and how often. This is to determine if ownership is in the hands of speculators . Five, a list of multiple dwell- ings which have been refinanced since 1960. Obviously additional mortgages could so distort the true picture, that a profitable building could show a loss . Six, a. list of multiple dwellings where ownership has been transferred from the corporate name to another 46 since 1960, and who controls each of the corporations listed. PIRS. HEI; IG: Mrs . Alton relinquished her time , so, you are entitled to at least two more minutes. DR. HEIDI: If this Council does not have these facts , I move that when this meeting is adjourned, it be reconvened when we have all the facts . A decision affecting the every-day existence of so many citizens, many of them elderly and inform, cannot be made brashly on the basis of hearsay. A last minute effort has been made to have home owners attend this meeting, to pit their interests against those of the tenants. Is this Town Council prepared this evening to guaranty the home owners that his taxes will not be increased should controls be lifted? I am certain they cannot guaranty that. The tenant and the home owner have identical interests to keep their taxes down and get the most out of their tax dollar. I request this Council to scrutinize 4'7 this back-door method of increasing taxes , study in detail the net affect of this proposal on individuals and note who benefits most from their action, and at what cost . It should cement better relationships so that we can all work together towards a just and honorable solution to this and other perplexing problems. I like the idea generally of Mr. Mandeville . Thank you. MRS ® HELWIG: Thank you. Mrs. Wein, please. MRS. WEIN. Members of the Council, ladies and gentlemen, I am speaking for a group of ladies like myself from Larchmont Acres , and there are many like us. We are all widows ; we are all on small incomes or social security. Most of us work besides. We feel that the landlords have the problems , and sensible increases such as mentioned in Mrs. Tanaski ' s letter would be fine if this would be continued. If it is for two years only, then what happens to us 48 and to everybody at the end of two years? If some system of control could be devised or, rather, limitations , if you don' t like the word "control° , this would make senses Otherwise , while we do not want special treatment, we do want rent subsidies. We want to be individual and pay our own way, but if total decontrol comes, I don't see how we can survive. Thank you. MRS. HEL6,iIG: Thank you, Mrs® Wein. Mr. Jordan from Larchmont Acres. MRo JORDAN: Folks, as far as decontrol is concerned_, a lot of people here that we - call tenants and neighbors and friends possibly do not understand the word, but you take the word "decontrol" , the mob would get a hold of that and what happens? You' re going to be hijacked and you're going to be mugged. I mean by landlords or whoever the hell he is they got working for theme There ' s only one way. What ' s the matter with the landlord? Does he have to get his 6% every year? You 're outside 40, economically trying to get by on what you get every day. Can' t he help along for the time being? There ' s many a way he can do it. Actually, he doesn't take care of your apartment. You keep it in shape all the time . A chain is as strong as its weakest link. So, keep fighting for this subject that we 're talking about here tonight. MRS. HELWIG: Thank you, Mr. Jordan. Mr. Kaplan, I think that you wanted to speak in opposition of the continuance of control. I would like to continue as we 're going with those who want to express opposition to decontrol. I' ll call you later. Mrs. Sadie Connelly of Larchmont Acres . MRS. COMNELLY: I would like to tell you what can happen. MRS, HELWIG: Would you please come forward to the microphone. MRS. CONNELLY: In two jumps my rent was increased from $145 to $210 a month. MRS. H=WIG: You are not under control, I take it? 50 MRS. CONNELLY: That ' s right . MRS. HELIIG: Thank you. Arnold Good, please. MR. GOOD: I would like to make one point. I have been under control for 12 years, or I' ve lived there for 12 years . Yet, in the last 5 or 6 years my rent has increased, I' d_ say, almost 35%, and I am under control. I just don't quite understand why the landlords complain that they're not getting enough. They're supposed to earn this 6% per year. They certainly do not earn it. My apartment required painting because of rain and broken walls . I think Mr. Gross in White Plains will know my complaints up there. There ' s an entire list of them. In. fact, there ' s a book that took almost one year for me to get some action to have him replace paint. That ' s all I have to say. PLR.S. HELWIG: Thank you, Mr. Good. I1r. Joseph Brilleman. MR. BRILLE.MAN: 1 will surrender my 51 time. MRS. HELWIG: Mr. .Silver. MR. SILVER: I submitted an opening statement. In view of the opening statement, I don't feel it ' s necessary for me to go further. MRS. HELWIG: Yes , we do have copies of your statement, and we appreciate it very= much. Irving Scharf of 343 Ridgefield Road. MRD SCH LRF: I would just like to say a few things . First of all, tonight I had a meeting with my landlord, and we had a tenants association meeting, which I' m the chairman of. We ' ve scheduled our rents up to 19750 It ' s now $185. It will only be going to $185 for the old tenants . The new tenants there ' s not going to be any limit on. However, I want to say something about our senior citizens . This is also with respect to our school finance committee. Like 52 we have a responsibility for our children, we also have a responsibility for our senior citizens who have contributed and worked for our community for so many ,years . There ' s one thing I do want to add, and that ' s what Mr® Mandeville said, as to have a rent review board not only for the people who are on control, but for the people who are off control® That should be established, and this is what our community really needs . We don' t need to decontrol the rents of people who are on there now, because these are people who have lived in our community a long time , and we ' re not going to gain much from it. In a few years as the time passes , it will be less and less. It ' s our responsibility to assume these particular costs . DRS. HELWIG: Mrs. Diana Ventaroca, 17 Chadsworth Lane. MRS. VENTAROCA: My name is Diana Ventaroca. When I moved into my apartment, the rent there was $134 and something or other. 53 It is now y$238. I want to know why it wasn't shown - - - - why the rental was increased so heavily. My husband died in Viet Nam, and it ' s been really hard on me . I think that ' s all I have to say. There' s no repairs . The roof is just leaking, and I painted myself, and the ceiling is falling all over the place . MRS. HELWIG: Mr. William Fuss. He ' s unique. He says both for and against. MR. PUSS: Mrs . Helwig, Councilmen, friends , I believe what has been said here by a few others that the landlords are entitled to a fair return, a fair return because there ' s nothing today we can buy for the goods we could_ 15 or 20 years ago. When I say a fair return, I mean a fair return, not an unfair return, but it should be written into any new laws that are past to protect those who came in after rent control, like the lady from Larchmont Acres whse rent was doubled. 54 I' m living now almost 5 years at 16 North Chadsworth Lane. That ' s the building that had the great big fire, so you ' ll allknow what building it is. When I moved in, I paid a fair rent which Mandeville asked. I loved the apartment , and I still dc. - - After the fire, it changed hands, and then I think still we have a very nice land- lord, but I think that people in my position should have a fair protection. About 5 months ago, my rent was increased. It ' s a one bedroom apartment , a very lovely apartment , and I like it . The rent was increased $45. That ' s after the presidential guidelines came in. I don't know if that ' s what ' s permitted or not , but I wouldn't argue the point, because he is entitled to it. Where I lived previously, I had four increases , and I felt they were entitled to it even though the law didn't allow it. I wonder what protection I' ll have if 55 he gives me a boost of another $100. I think the protection for those who are not under control should be written in. The building laws should be fixed. A new elevator was put in, which it did not need. A new wiring was put in, which it did need. A few years ago they fixed the bath- room, supposedly fixed it, which is ten times worse than the other _ne . They tore- out wallpaper from the den and the living room, too, and the man in charge of the crew said it would be fixed. It ' s two years. I've got streaks in the ceilings . New windows were not painted. The bathroom was not painted. There are cracks here and there. But to tell you the truth, I' m afraid to complain. I don't want the landlord to get mad at me and give me a $100 boost. So, we 're living there, my wife and I, afraid to complain and afraid of a big increase . Where do we stand, and there ' s many like us. Thank you. 12S. HEZWIG; Thank you, Mr. Russ . 58 MR. FARRO; Mrs. Helwig, members of the Council, ladies and gentlemen, I moved into Larchmont 8 months ago, and I moved into 16 North Chadsworth Avenue. I pay luxury apartment rents, and I was promised, and so were the other tenants who moved in there recently, a number of things that have not been performed by the landlord. The first one that I want to register is that he promised to build_ a covered garage , and instead the parking lot was tarred over. Now, there are many old ladies, widows , living in our building, and they' re very fearful what ' s going to happen in the wintertime. No one has guarantied that they will plow the lot , that their cars will be available at all to them. Another thing that was promised in February and has not been accomplished yet is a laundry in our building. We have to truck our laundry from one building to the next where there are two washing machines available for 50 families . You sometimes wait 6 hours �o before you find a washing machine . The maintenance of the building is deplorable® It ' s filthy, it ' s unheard of. A few of the tenants in the building spoke to me and wanted_ to go on record. They gave me two statements which I will file with the Board, Now, I don't know what legal right we have to enforce the promises that our landlord has made . One of the promises was also carpeting in the hallway, which was only half carpeted. Every month I make the same request for them to complete this work, but nothing is done . Now, anything I face them with, he has told me, you haven't got this in writing, so forget about it. Now, I want to know vrhat recourse those people have that pay already top rent for a landlord that doesn't want to spend the money® Unfortunately, we live in a building that ' s half controlled and half decontrolled, and here the inequities that have taken place we 60 seem to carry. Thank you. PMS. HELWIG: Thank you, Mr. Farro. Would you file the statement with Mr. Gronberg? We have three people who did not specify -whether they wish to speak in opposi- tion. I guess it ' s a statement. Mrs. Marion Hill. MRS. HILL: I' ll pass . MRS. HELWIG: Thank you, Mrs . Hill. Have you a statement to present"? MRS. HILL: No. MRS. HELWIG: Libby Morroff , 59 Edgewood Pvenue. MRS. MORROFF: I just wanted to say that as a taxpaying home owner, I oppose decontrol on two separate arguments . One is that I believe that the way to pay for such things as schools is not through property taxes and inequitable taxes. The other thing I believe that ou_r community does already much too little for is moderate income families, and that there ' s 61 a housing shortage , and a decontrol would drive the rents up completely out of the reach of anybody of moderate income . FIRS. HELWIG: Thank you. Yr. Kaplan, you' ve been very patient. I L. KAPLAN: I know there is a great majority here which is for control, and it ' s not easy to speak against it, but I am against control because 30 years of control is enough. The United States is not a welfare state. It ' s supposed to maintain everybody and everything else . I think the reason here we are complain- ing is because of the rent control. This is the sickness, and it ' s not true what somebody else said before, that landlords can make $50,000 and $60,000. There are buildings you can buy even here in Larchmont ® You can buy a building here for years now. It was offered to me . You can buy it very cheap. No landlord makes today profits here . It is correct that some of the elderly 62 suffer because some of them, if they wanted to fix the apartments better, and move into nicer apartments , this would cost more money. Where will the landlords take it? I think if you decontrol the apartments, landlords will be willing and grateful if you will remodel them, build them and build more , as long as you' re not on their necks. They are the only ones who can build sufficient living quarters for everybody, if you let them frees MRS. HELWIG: Thank you. We have two more cards here. Edward Ryan, of 32 West Garden Road. MR. RYAN: I would like to say by way of preface that I am not an apartment dweller. I' m a property owner. However, I have spent a considerable amount of time in recent years in an apartment in the city. I have a few suggestions which I hope would be of value. I hope that the Board should be very dubious of the effort to remove the control on a variety of grounds , 63 and most of them have been stated. It ' s a rather _round-about way of raising tar revenues in light of the hardships that will work on a number of people. Secondly, on the theory that landlords will put more money back into the property. I think the ezperience of New York City on that point has been clear, that despite the increase in rents and the decontrol, there ' s been virtually little or no improvement of the properties , and I don't think that rationale has any justification. However, my actual principal suggestion is of a technical nature ® I am afraid that possibly after scrutinizing the facts of the need and the balancing act that must be done , that some sort of decontrol might be in the future , either now or in future years. I have noticed that there is a nice statute in the language we ' re operating under here . It says that the T04,rn Board may request or adopt a resolution decontroling all or any apecified class of housing accommodation. 55 he gives me a boost of another $100. I think the protection for those who are not under control should be written in. The building laws should be fixed. A new elevator was put in, which it did not need. A new wiring was put in, which it did need. A few years ago they fixed the bath- room, supposedly fixed it, which is ten times worse- than the other, _ne . They tore out wallpaper from the den and the living room, too, and the man in charge of the crew said it would be fixed. It ' s two years. I've got streaks in the ceilings. New windows were not painted. The bathroom was not painted. There are cracks here and there. But to tell you the truth, I' m afraid to complain. I don't want the landlord to get mad at me and give me a $100 boost. So, we 're living there, my wife and I, afraid to complain and afraid of a big increase. Where do we stand, and there ' s many like us. Thank you. MRS. HELWIG: Thank you, Mr. Russ. 56 Mr. McGahan, 17 Echo Lane . MR. McGAHAN: My name is William McGahan. I'm chairman of the Larchmont Fair Housing Committee . I'd like to make a couple of statements very generally. Maybe they won't be too organized, but basically I think this community as a whole has been taking advantage of a. lot of the older people in the community by making them live on a fixed income and in a building of inflation like everything else that goes on in the country. Generally speaking, the people who are on fixed incomes who have retired have been taking a great deal of beating from everybody, from the prices, from rents, from everything. And now we ' re faced with a question in this community as to whether we can do anything as a community to be responsible with respect to the older people in the community, and I believe this is what the Board is -'aced with. It ' s that responsibility that it has to deal with. Whether it wants to, in effect. 57 decontrol housing, drive the older people out of the community who spent the greater portion of their lives contributing to the community and building a life that we want to lead, or provide for some means for them to stay within this community and to keep it a diversified community, to keep it from becoming a sterile bedroom community, like some of the communities we know so well which which are right near us . There must be other means of doing this, aside from just removing rent control. The Board of Education has addressed this question in dealing with people who live on fixed incomes who own their own homes by waiving the school tax requirements for those people. People who live in apartments are the same people who live in homes. They' re the same contributors to our community, and they deserve some attention by the Town Council, as well. I thank you. MRS, HETWIG: Thank you, Mr® McGahan® Mr. Farro of 16 North Chad.sworth 1?vei.ue® 6L I would like to suggest that it might be considered that housing accommodation units are occupied by the elderly, by the widows on fixed -pensions, et cetera. It can be classified as a special class of housing and not simply decontrolled. I suspect that people with ample incomes who, in fact -- I know that people with ample incomes have given increases over the years. I think the elderly and the widows, these people who don' t have money, they simply accept it from the request from decontrol from an order. DRS. H=WIG: Thank you. I would_ like to state that this is one of the things that we have been investigating with Mr. Grossberg. I don't believe he ' s ready at this point to give us an answer on some of the questions that we have asked in relation to different classes of decontrol, but I thank Mr. Ryan for bringing this to the attention of everyone this evening. Mrs . Harrington wanted to make a 65 trustee of the village or as an individual„ MRS. H12RINGTON: Both. The first part of my statement would be made as an individual. I am extremely dubious, along with Mr. Ryan, of any move to _remove decontrol at this time. As a citizen, also I would_ endorse the request for information given by the League of Women Voters and by Dr. Heidi. I would like to share with you some information I have received in my office as a. Trustee of the Village of Larchmont. It appears that in Larchmont, at least , landlords have preferred to use certiorari proceedings to gain a return on their investment. Very few have sought the relief given them under the law. I would like to cite those passages that give relief under the law, Section 33, Paragraph 1, Rent Increases Granted for Major Capital Improvements and Substantial increase of Rents . The rent statute imposes no limita- tion on the amount of increase of the rent 66 regulations . Section 35, Paragraph 5 of the Rent Regulations provide for rental increases if a landlord is not earning 736% on the value of the property. An important consideration is that in the application of this section of a building of significant number of decontrolled apartments, as you would have in the Town of Mamaroneck and the Village of Larchmont, the determination is to whether at 7%z% it is based. on -te controlled rents only. Finally, in Section 33, Paragraph 8, it will compensate the landlord for full costs and increased taxes . This section, likewise, increases rents for 15'/o in one year. I also know for those landlords who have sought increases, I have information on the one who seems consistently to gain increases. There are three increases in the period of October of 1971 to May of 1972. In a survey conducted last year, 170 tenants rent controlled agreed to increases , but pleaded for the maintenance of rent controls. 67 147 of the 220 rent controlled responded with household containing members who were senior citizens® I would like to also add that it ' s not only a question of the tenants and the home Owner. 60 of these tenants under rent control at one time were home owners or were members of families who are at the present home owners . I vould like tc note the figures, too, that the Supervisor mentioned of the discrepancy of what was over 800 controlled units , and what are now under X00 controlled units. This suggests to me that vacancy decontrol is operating a pace. I would also remind you of a statement made by the landlord who was the head_ of a Landlord Advisory Council in the paper this October, that he felt , at least , that vacancy decontrol was enough. I will submit these documents to the Council. MRS. �T-FLWIG: Thank you. I have a question before you leave. I 68 just want to clarify one point. These figures that are given are for the Village of Larchmont? MRS. HARRINGTON: Yes . The figures I gave were for the Village of Larchmont. MRS. HEI,WIG: Thank you. There are some people who have had their hands up who have not had cards. I would like to recognize them. MR. KIM: I have a point of order that I would like to correct. MRS. HELWIG: Mr. Kim, what ' s your point of order? MR. KIM: The point of order is that I believe by mistake my card was placed among those who favored the decontrol_ procedure. However, my statement was made against the decontrol of controlled apartments . The fact that I have given support to the national process of turnover is sufficient to have the landlords decontrol -- MRS. HELWIG: Thank you for the clarification. 69 Mr. Carlton Dukess, 79 Iandsdown Drive . MR. DUKESS: Madam Supervisor, members of the Council, and ladies and gentle- men, I have not proposed to speak and didn't put in a card, because I didn't think there was anything I could say that wasn' t said. in f act, everything I could have thought of has be--n said. And with due respect to Mr. Kaplan and his position, I think I agree with almost every speaker except Mr. Kaplan. The point I do rise to make- , however, and it ' s mainly because we have such an outpouring of people , that I think it ' s essential to make it , is that whether you are for or against decontrol, you are here in this room because -vie are faced with a desperate housing shortage of moderate and lower rents , and I would beseech everybody in this room to take their interests to go beyond that which brought them here tonight and to the members of the Council, to start facing the desperate shortage which 70 really raises the entire issue and underlines everything that we 're talking about, and let ' s start working together to get some moderate income housing in this town. MRS. HELWIG: Thank you. Will you state your name and address. MR. DRUSS: Charles Druss . Thank you very much for this opportunity. Something has become apparent to me in listening to many of the people who have spoken this evening. I am for rent control and the statistic that was just recently mentioned of the over 800 rentable apartments in the community, approximately only 300 are still under control. MRS. HELWIG: Nearer 400. It ' s 398. There ' s been about a 50% decrease in over the 7-year period. MR. DRUSS: The point I was trying to make or the thought that occurred to me was that there should be some point of recourse or board that we people who are not under rent control can turn to when our landlords 72 Mr. Druss . Is there anyone else who wishes to be heard? MRS. STOKES: My name is Ruth .Stokes. I live in the Alton House, and I went in there in 1969. 1 don't know whether I' m controlled or not controlled. I know that I pay the highest rent in the apartment. In March of this year they raised my rent 10%. The ceiling, as somebody else mentioned, was falling down. I asked that they fix it for this 10% raise . Nothing happened. In September, 6 months later, I went to Mr. Pinessa, the Building Inspector, and I have gotten a new ceiling, but I had to do that. If the tenants do not have a feeling of great love for the landlord, it ' s the landlord' s fault. Thank you. :'IRS. HELWIG: Thank you, Mrs . Stokes. MR. VERRETT. My name is Sidney Verrett, 73 3 Dillon Road. I would like to add on-a -few things of 3 Dillon Road. When we moved in there , we received_ a one year lease . Out of this one -year lease we make our own repairs , but also in the passageway going to the basement, there are wires and they are -low- enough -where children can get a hold of this. - There ' s a lot of small children We don' t have fuse boxes in the apartments . We have to go to the basement and hit the reset button for the apartments , and they are locked after 8 o ' clock. So, if the lights go out by a faulty wiring or some- thing, we can't go down and reset it. We don't have lights for -the -night . Also, we have bare wires hanging out of the ceiling. We asked them to be recapped. They haven't been recapped. That ' s all I can say, HRS. HELWIG; 2iank you, Yir. Verrett. IKr. Ga.nts ,please . MR. GANTS; My name is Gustave Gants . I live at 526-A Larchmont Acres. 73 3 Dillon Road. I would like to add on a few things of 3 Dillon Road. When we moved in there , we received a one year lease . Out of this one year lease we make our own repairs, but also in the passageway going to the basement, there are wires and they are low enough where children can get a hold of this . There ' s a lot of small children. We don't have fuse boxes in the apartments . We have to go to the basement and hit the reset button for the apartments , and they are locked after 8 o ' clock. So, if the lights go out by a faulty wiring or some- thing, we car_'t go down and reset it. We don't have lights for the night. Also, we have bare wires hanging out of the ceiling. We asked them to be recapped. They haven 't been recapped. That ' s all I can say. MRS. HELWIG: T ank you, Mr. Verrett. Mr. Gants,please . MRa GANT.S: My name is Gustave Gants. I live at 526-A La_rchmont Acres . 74 I just want to bring to your attention that rent control does not mean that we ' re still paying the price in 1945. My building has raised my rent over $50 from the time 1 came in over approximately 15 years ago. I want to bring to your- attention that rent decontrol puts rent price in the supply and demand category. Since demand is heavier than supply, wealthy landlords can charge huge rents, or tenants must move out of town. Nova, quite frankly, one argument for decontrol is that new apartment houses are going to be built. I have a very strong suspicion that the Town of Mamaroneck does not want new apartment houses built and has zoned -pretty affectively against high-rise apartments which would make land_ rent usable on an efficiency basis. Now, ladies and gentlemen, I want to bring to your attention that if these rents go up , the middle class in. this community is going to be destroyed. There is no way 75 that you can find equivalent rental space. The town, quite frankly, is abandoning the long-time residents. I bring to your attention that elderly and fixed incomes , middle income people who have pride in themselves and don't want to go on welfare , who don't want subsi- dies , who don' t want disgraceful living conditions, have to be protected somehow by the community. I strongly urge this Council to take the necessary steps to protect the long-time residents and keep a middle class group in this community. Thank you so much. MRS. HELWIG: Thank you. Is there anyone else who wishes to be heard? MRa WHITE: My name is K. Preston White, Larchmont Acres. I want to talk about a fair return to our landlord. $18,000 in 1943 , the sales of a mortgage of $250,000 in Mir. Grossbergs records. 76 In less than 20 years the landlord walks away with a straight line depreciation of 40%, in the neighborhood of $ 1,000 ,000 , which is roughly tax free . Along the way, the mortgages were fooled with, renewed, rewritten, and the building was traded at a value of $5 ,800,000, On $18,000 people walk away with about $ 6,000,000 out of Larchmonte I think that ' s a very fair return! Let ' s take the new people who came in. Nobody twisted their arms to come in here . Up to this point in less than 10 years they've walked out with somewhere , I would say, in the neighborhood of 3%z million bucks . Not bad! Total profit of the property, ,$5,800,000. In ten years he needs relief. I hope you all give it to him. MRS. HELWITG: Thank you, P'sm White Hr. Koch of 17 North Chadsworth Avenue. MR. KOCH: I lived in 17 North Chadsworth Avenue for going on 30 years. G,' en I first moved in there , they gave two months ` 77 concession, and after I was there some time , I paid 4 increases® Each time they had an increase , they sent Mrs Kenny around, who was with the Rent Board at one time , and they said they were going to give the super a raise . As soon as we all agreed, we paid the extra. Then about a month or two later, they got an official raise , which was another percentage , and that went on for another 4 or 5 years. When I went into the apartment, it was beautiful. The hedges were nice , the outside was as nice as any apartment you could find. Today it ' s really terrible. Inside I painted_ my apartment every three years . You ask for a paint job. It takes them two years to get around to it. I haven't had a shower for 5 or 6 years. You write and write and write. I haven't had a shower in, I mean® But since I've been in there, I have put my own gas stove in; I have put my own refrigerator and all these improvements that they should do. I remember, any time I was asked for 78 an increase, I have given it to them, but now if we go through this new ,set-up with the 1T/z% and -- Lord knows what they' re going to ask® Well, that ' s about it , MRS. HELWIG: Thank you very much. Is there anyone else that wishes to address the Board or to speak? MRS. GOSSH N: My name is Felicia Gassman. I'm a home owner. I' m speaking for two things. One is the concern of demands for the citizens of Larchmont ® The senior citizens , maybe even young families who may not be able to pay if their rents are increased® I also want to point out a concern for the stories that I have been hearing of the neglect of buildings of landlords and of the supreme efforts which the tenants have to make to maintain a decent living. I should think that this is a respon- sibility of our town and our supervisors What kind of inspection do we have? What kind of alertness do we have? I think that the maintenance of property, if pro-perly 79 inspected, is a most important thins, and it seems to me that this is very neglected. MRS. HELWIG: VL s . Gossman, I would like to say this, that I did appreciate the remarks of Mrs. Stokes , who pointed out when hr. Pinessa was alerted to this condition, that we were able to obtain action from the landlord. We frequently go through the Health Department . We do, however, have to depend on tenants to get in touch with us about some of these conditions before we are able to act . We did have many complaints in the questionnaire that many of you were kind enough to answer for us, and we have followed up on many of these, and i believe that some of the situations have been remedied. Would you like to speak? MRS. BARTOW: Yes. My name is Mrs . B. Barlow, 17 North Chadsworth Avenue . I did call the Health Department in White Plains. I threatened them to call Goldman. 80 It made absolutely no difference ® We have bees in our apartments , and we have wasps in our apartment® They have done absolutely nothing for us . We actually killed live bees . The Health Department has done nothing for us® Vow, I want to know why our landlord doesn't send us rent bills every month. Is it because he ' s hiding something? Is he hiding something from the Rent Control Of_°ice? We pay our rent ourselves without getting any notice of rental due . We don' t know what the rent roll is in this building. MRS. HELIP1IG: Thank you Is there anyone else that wishes to address the Board? PR. BODEhLc My name is Gerald Bedell, I happen to be a Trustee of the Mamaroneck school systems The problem that is before us today is a. very important one. it involves the tax base at the school system, and some remarks have been made with respect to the school 81 system, and no decisions have been made in that respect ® In addition to that, there are very important social problems involving our elderly, our apartment dwellers, people with many children in apartments, and I can only say that I think that this is an issue that requires a great deal of consideration. I think it requires consideration with respect to the number of elderly who are living in our community; the number of people who have children who are in our apartment houses, and I don't think any decision could be in any way carefully made without respect to many statistics in this regard® I don't think we should be in a position where we should be in any way decisive or antagonistic in our community in this issue, because I think the facts have come before us . I think we have to consider all the people in our community who are living in apartment houses, and see what their needs are ® 82 As I said before , whether they' re elderly or whether they have children, we have to see what the statistics are, see what the tax base is; see what the investment is with respect to the landlords who are interested in a reasonable return on their investments , and put all these statistics together and plan for our community so that we can make an important decision in this respect , because I' m sure that nobody here wants to do anything that ' s going to make any enactment that ' s not in the best interest of our elderly people, our children and our middle class people , but what we want to do is to work together and make some kind of a decision that ' s going to be important and Permanent to all of us. The School Board has been presented with a proposition to make a recommendation with respect to a continuing control of rent or the decontrol of rent, and it ' s my sincere belief that I can 't in good conscience, make a decision at this time, because I feel that 83 we have to have all the statistics tonight. MRS. HELWIG: Thank you, Mr. Bedell. Mrs. Quarino. MRS. QU-A-R7NC: I just want to say to the lady ahead of me , that our local officials have been a great deal of help on many cases , but when we come down to going out of our own township , we have to go into White Plains for help -- I called the White Plains Board of Health after my cone was bothered with mice for a year, which we had complained about. How would you like to find an infant baby with a mouse in its crib ; your daughter-in-law waking up at 3 o ' clock in the morning with a mouse in her hair. Then I called theBoard of Health. Does the Board of Health get in touch with me? No. They turn around and call the superintend- ent to tell him I had complained. He , in turn, called me to raise the devil with me. Well, that was a mistake. Nobody- raises the devil with me when I' m right, and in this case I' m right, and I think maybe the Board of 84 Health should be checked into and find out why they don't check into complaints. MRS. HELWIG: Thank you. Are there any further statements? Nir. Schucker, I believe you yielded your time before. MR, SCHUCKER: My name is Paul Schucker, 17 North Chadsworth Avenue. I listened to all that has begin said here tonight. All I want to say is that I endorse very much the fact that this Board will listen very intentively to Mr. Litisworth (phonetic) . I think if you do have all those facts, the decision will be self-evident. MRS. HELWIG: Thank you, Mr. Schucker. I would like to say at this time that we have accomplished very much what the Board hoped to accomplish this evening. We have a great many suggestions from you. We have a great deal of opinions expressed. We have some facts . We agree with Mr. Bodell and with other speakers who have said to us that we must certainly have all the facts . We do know 85 that we need many more of them than we have at the present in making a decision. I would appeal to each and every one of you to be willing to work with us in getting whatever facts are _required for a sound decision. 9 VOICE: Madam Chairman, how about giving us a little more notice next time when we have a meeting like this, so we can come- a little more prepared. XRS. HELWIG: There was three weeks of formal notice given. THE VOICE: Not to me . MRS. HELWIG: It was in the papers. THE VOICE: I just got a letter yesterday telling me there was going to be a meeting today. It was dated the 31st of October. I got a. letter from you quite some time ago the first time . The first time I heard about the decontrol meeting was when I read it in the newspaper on Monday evening. MRS. HELWIG: It was announced at the 86 Town Board meeting at least a month ago® It appeared in the newspaper. I' m sorry if there were those of you who did not see this notice. A VOICE: I knew about it a month ago® MRS, HELWIG: Mrs , Teresco mentions that she heard about it a month ago® May we have a m.otion to adjourn the meeting? PLR. VJAI DERNOOT: So moved. 1`2e FAIOLA: Seconded, MRS. HELWIG: We will take a five minute break before we reconvene for the rest of the evening, (Whereupon, the hearing adjourns at 10 : 20 p.m. ) 87 C E R T I F I C A T I O N I, ALLAN S. BERGMAN,, a shorthand reporter and notary pia is of the state of New York, do hereby certify: That the within is a true record of the decontrol hearing held at Weaver .Street Firehouse, Weaver Street and Edgewood Avenue, Mamaroneck, New York, on November 1, 1972, at 8: 15 P .M. Allan Se Bergman. suggest, he replied that he felt a two-minute period should be fixed, which he thereby moved. The motion was seconded by Councilman Bloom and thereupon adopted by unanimous vote. The Chair then stated that the Board prior to hearing individual speakers would now recognize Mrs. Dee Topo and Mrs. Peggy Snyder who had requested time to present formal statements for the Board -- of Education and the Larchmont League of Women Voters respectively at the beginning of the hearing,which were thereupon ordered received and marked as Exhibits #1 and #2 for the record of this hearing. Transcript of Proceedings herewith appended 3 - OLD BUSINESS 1. Report on Bids - Improvement on Blossom Terrace In accordance with recommendation set forth in memorandum addressed to the Board by the Town Attorney, Comptroller, Engineer and Highway Superintendent under date of October 30th, 1972 herewith presented and ordered received and filed, on motion by Councilman Bloom, seconded by Councilman Vander- ___ noot, it was unanimously RESOLVED, that this Board hereby accepts the bid of Joseph Mazzella Excavating Corporation in the amount of $10,100.00 for roadway improvement on Blossom Terrace in accordance with specifications set forth in Notice for bids. NEW BUSINESS 1. Salary Authorizations - Recreation Pursuant to memoranda of the Superintendent of Recreation under dates of October 26th and 30th, 1972 herewith presented and ordered received and filed, on motion by Councilman Faiola, seconded by Councilman White, it was unanimously RESOLVED, that as recommended by the Recreation Commission, this Board hereby authorizes that the following personnel be engaged and compen- sated as set forth below: Effective Name Title Date Salary Daniel DiLeonardo Sr. Rec. Leader 10-14-72 $18.00 per session Richard Owen " " " " 36.00 " " Thomas Auchterlonie " It " " " Sharlene Auchterlonie " " It " " Thomas Krawczyk Spec. Education " 20.00 2. Authorization of Emergency Overtime for: a) Police Pursuant to memorandum of the Police Commission under date of October 25th, 1972 herewith presented and ordered received and filed, on motion by Councilman Vandernoot, seconded by Council- man Bloom, it was unanimously RESOLVED, that as approved by the Board of Police Commissioners, this Board hereby authorizes pay- ment of Emergency Overtime Compensation to the following officers of the Town of Mamaroneck Police Department for the number of hours set forth for each covering the period from September 28th to October 25th, 1972: 4 - Name Hours Min. Sgt. Diamond 5 IT Greenstein 8 if McClintock 5 it O'Rorke 4 Det. DeVico 10 if Mulcahy 10 Ptl. Adamo 5 " Ambrosovitch 1 " Anderson 2 Baumblatt 4 " Coy 5 " Costello 1 " Catapano 5 Carden 5 Graziano 1 30 " Hutcheon 5 " Knox 5 Mosiello 4 Munch 4 " Nardelli 4 " Passafume 5 " Pyrch 13 " Thompson 5 30 Total 117 b) Fire Pursuant to memorandum of the Fire Chief under date of October 26th, 1972 herewith presented and ordered received and filed for the record, on motion by Councilman Faiola, seconded by Councilman Bloom, it was unanimously RESOLVED, that as approved by the Fire Chief, this Board hereby authorizes payment of Emergency Overtime Compensation to the following Firemen of the Town of Mamaroneck Fire Department for the number of hours set forth for each covering the period from October 7th to October 26th, 1972: Name Hours Lt. Joseph Garofalo 3 Fireman Carl Mirande 10 " James Laverty 14 Kenneth Valle 14 Total 41 3. Transfer of Funds Pursuant to memorandum of the Comptroller under date of November lst, 1972 herewith presented and ordered received and filed, on motion by Councilman Bloom, seconded by Council- man Vandernoot, it was unanimously RESOLVED, that this Board hereby authorizes the following transfer of funds within the 1972 budget: 5 - GENERAL FUND TRANSFER TO TRANSFER FROM TOWN WIDE 1220.2 Supervisor - Equipment $ 425.00 $ A/C 202 1420.4 Town Attorney - Contractual 200.00 Expenses A/C 402 1620.2 Town Offices - Equipment 40.00 A/C 201 1620.4 Town Offices - Contractual 800.00 Expenses A/C 403 1620.4 Town Offices - Contractual 700.00 Expenses A/C 405 7020.1 General Recreation - Personal 2,000.00 Services A/C 106 7620.4 Adult Recreation - Contractual Expenses A/c 7620.4 11500.00 8510.4 Community Beautification - 600.00 Contractual Expenses A/C 401 1990.0 Miscellaneous - Contingency 6,265.00 Fund A/C 1990.0 $ 6,265.00 $ 6,265.00 GENERAL FUND TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE 8160.4 Garbage District #1 Contractual Expenses A/C 403 8,663.96 503 Special District Surplus 8,663.96 Garbage District #1 A/C 503 $ 8,663.96 $ 8,663.96 504 Surplus - Water District ill A/C 504 6,900.00 8340.4 Water District #1 Contractual Expenses A/C 402 6,900.00 $ 61900.00 $ 6,900.00 503 Surplus - Special District Street Lighting #1 A/C 503 1,969.79 5182.4 Street Lighting #1 Contractual Expenses A/C 402 1,969.79 $. 1,969.79 $ 1,969.79 4. Amendment of Resolution Changing Date for Presentation of 1973 Departmental Requests (Tentative Budget) Following the Supervisor's explanation and pursuant to her request that the resolution adopted at the last meeting fixing the date for presentation of Departmental Requests (Tentative Budget for 1973) be amended so as to change that date to comply with law, on motion by Councilman Vandernoot, seconded by Councilman Faiola, it was unanimously RESOLVED, that the resolution adopted on October 18th, 1972 be and it hereby is amended so as to read as follows : 6 - That a Special Meeting of this Board be held on Friday evening, November 10th, 1972 at 8:15 p.m. in the Council Room or Auditorium of the Weaver Street Firehouse, Weaver Street, Town of Mamaroneck, for the purpose of presenting the 1973 Departmental Requests (Tentative Budget). --- 5. Authorization to Advertise for Bids Auxiliary Generator for Firehouse Pursuant to memorandum addressed to the Board by the Town Engineer under date of October 30th, 1972 herewith presented and ordered received and filed, on motion by Councilman Faiola, seconded by Councilman Vandernoot, it was unanimously RESOLVED, that in accordance with law, the Town Clerk be and he hereby is authorized to publish in the official newspaper of the Town of Mamaro- neck, "The Daily Times", a Notice for Bids, to be returnable November 15th, 1972, and opened and read aloud at a regular meeting of this Board at 8:15 p.m. on that date for an auxiliary generator for the Weaver Street Firehouse, in accordance with the specifications set forth in the Notice, provided that the said specifications have been approved by the Town Attorney prior to the publication of the aforesaid Notice for Bids. REPORTS The Councilmen -- Mr. Vandernoot -- 1. Appointment to Narcotics Guidance Council Mr. Vandernoot presented a brief resume of the background and experience particularly qualifying Mary Meskers, a Senior at Rye Neck High School, to be the student representative to the Narcotics Guidance Council and with great pleasure moved her appointment. The motion was seconded by Councilman Bloom and the following resolution thereupon adopted by unanimous vote of the Board: RESOLVED, that the appointment of Mary Meskers of 1321 Harrison Avenue, Mamaroneck, a senior at Rye Neck High School, as a student representative to the Narcotics Guidance Council be and it hereby is approved. OTHER BUSINESS (Not on Agenda) Mrs. Robert Brown - 58 Hillcrest Avenue Mrs. Robert Brown, upon recognition, addressed the Board advis- ing that she was a new resident of the community and that she - 7 - had gone to the Court to arrange to have a summons served on a business. She stated that at 5 o'clock on the date she was to appear, she was notified that the summons had not been served and she therefore should not appear. She inquired as to the reason for this and what she should do next. The Town Attorney and Councilman Bloom reviewed the situation with Mrs. Brown in some detail advising her that in many in- stances constables experienced delays of some length in the process of serving small claim summonses and suggested that she call the Court Clerk again at her convenience in order to expedite this matter. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to come before the meeting, on motion duly made and seconded, it was declared adjourned at 10:45 p.m. , to reconvene on November 15th, 1972. BOARD OF FIRE COMMISSIONERS The meeting of the Board of Fire Commissioners was convened immediately upon the adjournment of the Town Board meeting. 1. Claims Upon presentation for authorization of payment by Commissioner --- Faiola and on his motion, seconded by Commissioner White, it was unanimously RESOLVED, that the following Fire Department claims be and they hereby are approved and payment thereof hereby authorized from the Fire Department budget subject to approval by the Town Comptroller: R. G. Brewer, Inc. $ 65.02 Frank Claps 300.00 The New Rochelle Water Company 93.75 Con Edison 167.61 The Corner Store 17.80 Anthony Cozzolino 275.00 Dri-Chem Extinguisher Company 136.75 Dri-Chem Extinguisher Company 41.25 Eastern Mechanical Supply 207.60 Excelsior Garage & Machine 599.04 Works, Inc. Exterminating Services Corp. 7.00 Con Edison 5.00 Humble Oil & Refining Company 41.05 Kamdor Plumbing & Heating Corp. 45.00 W. A. Kraft Corp. 622.62 The Larchmont Print, Inc. 137.00 McGuire Bros. , Inc. 10.00 Merson Uniform Company 1,538.11 New York Telephone Company 144.78 - 8 - Poloron Products, Inc. $ 925.00 Roberts 213.60 Village Paint Supply 37.40 Westchester Joint Water Works 5,037.50 Rocco Zavaglia 152.00 Post Lodge 2,235.50 Dominick J. Forti 142.50 Total. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $13,197.88 2. Reports Commissioner Faiola stated that the report for the month of October 1972 was not ready and would be presented at the next regular meeting on November 15th, 1972. 3. Adjournment There being no further business to come before the meeting, on motion duly made and seconded, it was declared adjourned at 10:50 p.m. , to reconvene on November 15th, 1972. own Perk 9 - Notice of Special Meeting Town Board Town of Mamaroneck , N . Y . Pursuant to Section 62 of the Town Law, I hereby call a special meeting of the Town Board, to be hald in the Council Room or Auditorium of the Weaver Street Fire- house, Weaver Street, Town of Mamaro- neck, at 8:15 p.m, on Friday, November 10th, 1972, for the purpose of presenting the 1973 Departmental Requests (Tentative Budget). a Christine K. Helwig Supervisor Dated: November the 10th 1 9 7 2 b)